In this episode, we meet Joao Gabriel Almeida Doctor of Communication, Coordinador de Círculos at Instituto de Pensamiento y Cultura en América Latina. Reflecting on what kind of stakeholder engagement should we support in order to build platforms that support meaningful learning. Joao, combines the pedagogical with the technological challenges as well as ideas, with his experience of being an online teacher exclusively since 2016, and also researcher. In the first few minutes will introduce the context of our dialogue with Joao and then we invite you to a deep listening experience and co-creating with Joao's reflections and invitations. I am most grateful and so excited to be working with student agents and artists, T (13y old) and P ( 10 y old) that make all the editing.