Cedric the Entertainer joins Na’im Lynn for a deeply personal conversation about family, longevity, success and what he's learned after decades in entertainment. Cedric opens up about growing up in Missouri, his complicated relationship with his father, caring for him later in life and what watching the people you love grow older teaches you about what really matters. He also shares how his mother shaped the way he communicates, what he did before comedy, and where his signature “baby” came from. The conversation turns to Cedric's career — from Barbershop and The Soul Man to The Neighborhood — and the difficult lesson that a big paycheck doesn't necessarily mean creative control. Cedric also explains why he eventually pivoted toward television, how watching Steve Harvey reinvent himself changed his perspective on career longevity, and why comparing your path to somebody else's success can become a trap. Cedric also speaks candidly about the financial side of successful television, including his frustration with the difference between the financial windfalls received by many white sitcom stars and what Black performers have historically received. He talks about the disappointment that created for him, why he went to Broadway, and why he still loves getting onstage. Na’im and Cedric also revisit their own history working together, talk about protecting family life from the public, the controversy surrounding Cedric's character Eddie in Barbershop, accepting people for who they are, and what Cedric wants his next chapter to look like. In this conversation: 00:00 Cedric the Entertainer Joins DMC 01:28 Staying Grounded Through Celebrity 07:40 Cedric’s Relationship With His Father 13:02 Taking Care of His Dad Later in Life 15:40 Watching the People You Love Grow Older 18:13 Health, Family and What Really Matters 20:23 How Cedric’s Mother Shaped His Communication 24:42 Intelligence, Authenticity and Being Yourself 28:23 Growing Up in Missouri and Life Before Comedy 31:26 Where Cedric’s “Baby” Catchphrase Came From 32:47 Na’im Remembers Working With Cedric 35:28 The Career Lesson Na’im Never Forgot 39:26 Movie Stardom, Creative Control and Career Pivots 42:20 Choosing Television and Being Present for Family 44:35 Why Cedric Stopped Measuring Himself Against Other Stars 48:40 Depression and the Economics of The Neighborhood 51:22 Streaming Changed the Television Business 55:27 Does Cedric Ever Plan to Retire? 59:28 Why Cedric Protects His Family Life 01:05:42 Barbershop, Eddie and Playing a Controversial Character 01:07:36 Let People Be Who They Are 01:09:27 AC Barbecue, Wine, Charity and What’s Next 01:13:01 Closing

Spank Horton sits down with longtime friend Na’im Lynn for a Deep Meaningful Conversation about the life and experiences behind the comedy. Spank opens up about growing up in Philadelphia, his relationship with his parents, discovering his personality at an early age, attending Lincoln University, joining Alpha Phi Alpha, becoming a young father, and eventually finding his way into stand-up comedy. The conversation gets especially personal as Spank talks about fatherhood and raising his daughter, who has Dravet syndrome. He shares how the experience taught him patience, what it means to be the rock for his family, and one of the biggest questions he thinks about as a father: who will be there to care for his daughter when he and her mother are no longer able to? Na’im and Spank also look back on more than two decades of friendship and comedy — from their early days in Philadelphia to building careers in entertainment and the relationships that helped shape their journeys. This is Spank Horton beyond the stage: family, fatherhood, friendship, happiness, and the experiences that made him who he is today. DMC — Deep Meaningful Conversations with Na’im Lynn Subscribe for more honest conversations with comedians, entertainers, creatives and people with stories worth hearing. #SpankHorton #NaimLynn #DMC #DeepMeaningfulConversations #Podcast #ComedyPodcast #Fatherhood #StandUpComedy

Na’im Lynn sits down with Comedian CP (Chris Powell) for a conversation about ambition, fatherhood, confidence, comparison, and finally giving yourself permission to pursue the life you actually want. CP looks back at his early days rapping in Detroit, his first corporate job in advertising, and the moment he realized that being close to the entertainment industry wasn’t the same as doing what was really in his heart. He also shares a powerful conversation with his father after graduating college that changed the way he looked at adulthood and his own potential. The conversation shifts into parenting as CP and Na’im compare raising daughters with the way they were raised. They discuss letting their kids express themselves, apologizing when a parent gets something wrong, the pressure surrounding grades, preparing children for adulthood, and how difficult it can be to give your kids opportunities you never had while still hoping they develop resilience. Later, CP gets candid about ambition and envy in comedy—including realizing that his frustration with Ryan Davis was forcing him to confront something in himself. Na’im shares a similar experience with Malik S., and they unpack what happens when you’re surrounded by successful people but still know you want something more for your own career. They also talk about the reality behind entertainment-industry exhaustion, being close to major success without necessarily wanting every part of it, and what it takes to keep pursuing bigger goals without losing sight of family and health. Subscribe for more DMC — Deep Meaningful Conversations: Follow DMC / Na’im Lynn: https://www.instagram.com/dmc_pod/ https://www.instagram.com/naimthestar Comedian CP https://www.instagram.com/comediancp/ https://https://www.comediancp.lol/ #DMC #ChrisPowell #NaimLynn #comediancp 00:00 Na’im welcomes CP to DMC 01:09 CP’s early rap days in Detroit 04:02 From rapping to finding his entertainment lane 05:22 Why corporate life didn’t feel finished 09:11 CP gets his chance to create a major ad 13:09 Realizing he wanted to be the entertainer 15:00 Choosing the safe version of your dream 17:10 Where CP’s sense of humor started 23:08 Do you ever outgrow respecting your elders? 25:59 Watching his parents’ relationship differently as an adult 28:29 The message from CP’s father he never forgot 31:19 Growing up fast in a single-parent household 33:11 Going from private school to public school 35:31 Giving your kids the life you never had 39:45 When your children grow up with different advantages 42:39 Letting your kids challenge you 45:47 “You’re raising an adult” 49:13 Would CP ever make his daughters move out? 52:49 Grades, expectations and finding your passion 56:07 Watching his daughter learn from rejection 58:38 Celebrating other people when you’re still waiting 01:02:27 CP admits he was hating on Ryan Davis 01:05:06 Why self-promotion made CP uncomfortable 01:08:20 Na’im’s similar experience with Malik S. 01:11:49 CP remembers seeing Na’im perform 01:14:04 How fame looks different outside Los Angeles 01:15:34 Being successful next to somebody even more successful 01:20:19 Wanting to be “the man” versus being number two 01:21:42 Seeing the workload behind another level of success 01:25:14 What bigger ambition actually requires 01:27:16 Why entertainers’ exhaustion gets misunderstood 01:28:39 The day CP’s mom saw how filming really works

Tony Rock sits down with Na’im Lynn for a deeply personal conversation about family, comedy, loss, brotherhood and building a career on his own terms. Tony takes Na’im back to Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, where humor was part of family life and his older brothers became some of his earliest influences. He opens up about his father Julius, the work ethic he inherited from him, losing him while Tony was still young, and why one missed moment after high-school graduation still stays with him. The conversation also gets into Tony’s path through stand-up, learning comedy while watching Chris Rock work clubs, being labeled “underrated,” financing his own comedy special, writing and pitching his own projects, fatherhood changing the way he approaches life on the road, and his goal of becoming a theater-level headliner. DMC — Deep Meaningful Conversations is about the stories underneath the public version of people: friendship, family, identity, ambition, loss and the experiences that shape who we become. Subscribe for more conversations with Na’im Lynn.

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PODCAST: Live from the Green Room https://open.spotify.com/show/1wFvK5Fx8ixlHSOn0qTOwN

00:00 Tony Rock & Na’im Lynn Reconnect

02:01 Tony Rock’s DUI Story

05:59 Fatherhood Changed Tony’s Lifestyle

07:42 Growing Up in the Rock Family

11:55 Losing His Father & Living With Grief

13:05 The Real Julius Rock

19:19 Where Tony’s Love of Comedy Began

25:15 Why Tony Waited to Start Comedy

28:42 The Graduation Moment He Still Regrets

33:17 Na’im & Tony on Losing Family

37:10 Learning Comedy From the Greats

42:49 Tony Rock on Being “Underrated”

46:16 His Goal of Becoming a Theater Headliner

54:52 Knowing When It’s Time to Pivot

57:51 Tony Rock’s Next Career Move

01:03:47 Betting on Himself

01:08:25 Navigating Expectations in the Industry

01:11:21 Why Family Means Everything to Tony

01:13:41 Tony Gets Honest About His Career

01:19:19 Why Barclays Meant So Much

01:24:32 Wanting to Work Together, Not Ask for Favors

01:36:40 Final Thoughts & What’s Next

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Welcome to DMC with Na'im Lynn, where comedians, actors, artists, athletes, and creators have honest conversations you won't hear anywhere else. In the very first episode, Na'im Lynn sits down with legendary comedian, actor, impressionist and entertainer Affion Crockett for one of his most personal interviews ever.

Host: Na’im Lynn @itsnaimlynn https://instagram.com/naimthestar

Guest: Affion Crockett @affioncrockett https://www.instagram.com/affioncrockett

00:00 Intro

1:11 Why Na'im Started This Podcast

3:08 The Questions Affion Hates Answering

9:00 Are We Really Friends?

13:07 Why Affion Is So Introverted

15:06 Growing Up in Germany

17:29 TV Became His Best Friend

18:13 Meeting His Biological Father

24:12 Finding Out His Dad Wasn't His Biological Father

30:17 Losing His Father

31:51 Trust, Therapy & Dating

35:33 Performing vs. Real Life

39:15 Returning to Stand-Up Comedy

45:12 Social Media & Missed Opportunities

48:30 Why Affion Doesn't Drink

53:48 Dating Deal Breakers

56:08 Wanting Children

57:54 Being Called "OG"

1:00:39 What Fame Really Feels Like

1:05:27 Success, Purpose & Divine Timing

1:14:21 What's Next

1:15:58 Outro

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