Do Ladies Do That?

in this week's episode we're recapping Imagine Me and You (2006) dir. Ol Parker, starring Piper Perabo as Rachel and Lena Headey as Luce. Join us as we find out what happens when an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object. While we’re almost sure you would know your florist at your own wedding, it does set up for a great love at first sight story. From number 9 being a wanker to love scenes on rose petals to timely traffic jams, this film has everything you need for your wlw romantic comedy fix.

We discuss how selfish self-discovery can be, and why it’s completely fine to be, Rachel’s “research” and compare it to our own; the Buzzfeed “are you gay?” quiz. And draw comparisons between Jamie from Bly Manor and Luce. The moon flower is the new lily.

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In this week’s episode we discuss the Bury Your Gay Trope. From its history to our first experience watching it on our screens.

We just want to put a TRIGGER WARNING on this episode, as there is discussion of death and LGBTQ+ suicide statistics throughout. If discussions of these topics are detrimental to your health please do not listen to this episode.

We discuss the trope’s variants from out of the closet and into the fire, the gay guy dies first and the, almost inevitable, homophobic hate crimes. The impact on the community when queer characters are scarce to find and how in some cases these fates are a stark reminder of reality for the LGBTQ+ community worldwide.

Our upset at the lack of happy endings are usually thrown the “anyone can die” argument which can be taken personally by many. Some of us often associate being queer with living an unhappy life or facing early death because that’s what we see on our screens.

We also touch upon the idea of chosen family and having a connection to other LGBTQ people unlike any other within our lives. As well as mentioning good representation such as Wynonna Earp and One Day at a Time. And our hopes for this trope and the lives of our future fictional LGBTQ+ characters.

Oh, and fuck Jenny Schecter

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HELPLINES

This week we’re recapping Jamie Babbit’s, 1999 film, But I’m a Cheerleader, starring Natasha Lyonne and Clea DuVall. We discuss washing machine kissing, our love for Graham and lesbian stereotypes. While Becca questions if this film is based on her own life, Molly discovers her root to lesbianism is similar to the characters. The satirical element of this film highlights the stereotypes and that we must fit into a particular category: boy or girls, pink or blue, gay or straight… or a cheerleader.

While Graham likes girls A LOT, Megan gets good grades, goes to church… she’s a cheerleader. And we follow their journey through True Directions, 5 step, conversion therapy programme. As they fall in love with a little help from the ex-ex gays and underground homo-rail road. Only Megan would get kicked out of a conversion camp for homosexual activity. Returning to win her love back, in the only way she knows how… with a cheer.

This relatable, comedic film is a light-hearted twist on a much more serious topic.

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This episode we’re recapping Clea DuVall’s lesbian Christmas romcom; Happiest Season.

While Molly loves the Christmas Season, Becca is a bit of a grinch. Family Christmas is never easy especially when reputation matters and you’re hiding a huge secret. We discuss our love for Jane and John, middle child syndrome, sibling rivalry, the toxicity of heteronormative society and the closet and being friends with your girlfriends ex.  As well as drawing parallels to our own lives, which made this a very interesting and realistic watch and the what we think would happen had there been a different director.

With Becca’s focus on Aubrey Plaza and Molly’s on a dead fish subplot what more could you want from a Christmas themed film?

This is our final episode of 2020. We will be back with Disobedience (2017) January 7th 2021. Be sure to join us in the new year when we will continuously question do ladies do that?

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We finally have Halloween lesbians!! For this week’s episode we’re chatting Netflix’s new horror, The Haunting of Bly Manor. We recap the love story of Jamie and Dani and the ghosts and curses that come along with it.

We loved that this story wasn’t filled with homophobia, in fact it didn’t have any, other than a ghost ex-boyfriend that we interpreted as comphet.

Note: at the end of this episode, we say we will recap Disobedience (2017) next week, we have decided to do an episode on Happiest Season instead, to take two weeks off over the holiday season.

In this week’s episode we discuss queerbaiting and the impact this can have on the LGBTQ+ community. A lot of the time we scrape up whatever queer content we can get, just to feel seen, is it better to have no LGBTQ characters than it is to riddle shows with queer coding or queerbaiting. Especially when this trope is born from homophobic censorships.

We discuss stereotypes the community falls into and how we believe we have evolved enough to not have to fit into boxes to be gay. There are more ways to be gay than being a typically masculine woman or typically feminine man.

We question who is to blame for queerbaiting? At this point, are they just including stereotypically queer characters to tick a diversity box? What is the impact on kids who aren’t seeing their family being represented? Is it a marketing strategy?

We realised throughout discussions of Pitch Perfect’s BeChloe, Once Upon a Time’s SwanQueen and Dead to Me that Molly seems to avoid shows that queerbait, or is completely oblivious to potentially queer characters, while Becca is passionately angered by the love stories that could have been.

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A big hetero hello to all of you! In part 2 of our Orange is the New Black episodes we discuss Nicky Nichols, Carrie “Big Boo” Black , Suzanne “Crazy Eyes” Warren and everyone’s true love, Poussey Washington. As well as a whole lot of other LGBTQ characters and storylines.

Throughout this episode there are SPOILERS. As we focus on stereotype representation from sex obsessed to overly obsessive girlfriends and being a “baby gay”. As well as touching on prison injustice told through the death of our beloved P. The gay experience of unrequited love with your best friend AND our favourite straight couple in the series.

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This episode is part 1 of 2 all about one of our favourite LGBTQ+ shows, Orange is the New Black. The show is based on Piper Kerman’s memoir under the same name. We’re chatting our favourite characters, couples and storylines throughout all 7 seasons.

While Molly watched this show in secret and Becca watched it openly, we both adore the diverse cast of characters and topics tackled throughout.

Coming to terms that most long-term couples in TV are toxic was difficult, but we love to hate Alex Vause and Piper Chapman (Vauseman.)

As all our listeners will come to realise, we’re suckers for good love stories with major flaws, but sometimes we wonder if it’s because this is the only representation we know…

All that’s left to say is thank you Jenji Kohan for creating this messy queer masterpiece that we all love. For breaking out hearts on multiple occasions but also allowing us to realise we were gay.

Join us next week for part 2 of our OITNB episode, where we chat a large selection of other LGBTQ+ characters within the show.

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note: an error, in the episode we say Piper Chapman is sentenced to 15 years, in the show it is 15 months.

From a group chat to co-hosts – this is how the British soap opera Emmerdale made Do Ladies Do That? In this week’s episode we discuss how Charity Dingle and Vanessa Woodfield, local vet, drunken kiss in the cellar of 2017 landed us in an amazing friendship surrounded online by many amazing LGBTQ+ women.

Charity’s relationship with Vanessa is the only stable relationship she has ever had. And her character development over the last 3 years has been nothing like we have ever seen before. Supporting each other through historical abuse, parental death, scams, kidnapping, cancer and now an adoption; Vanity are some of the best representation we have ever seen.

note: this episode was recorded a few weeks ago, therefore recently aired events are not included. We may have to do a follow up episode in a year’s time to see if our views of “best pairing” have changed.