Joshua Cutchin, much loved Dreamland guest, author and musician, is back to talk to Whitley about the mystery of the visitors and their strange similarity to the beings we see written about in ancient fairy lore.

In this incredible interview, Joshua and Whitley discuss the apparent connection between the visitor phenomenon, death and the afterlife, and a fascinating story about the symbolism of the white moth. What is it that links close encounters, mythology, death, and the living? Could it be that the people on the other side have technology, and that this is what we are witnessing in UFO/UAP sightings? If so, what are they trying to tell us?