The Athletic's Ben Standig and the great Rick "Doc" Walker are talking about the Washington Commanders' Friday preseason opener in Cleveland and the latest with Ron Rivera's comments on Eric Bieniemy. Ben opens with Rivera's apology and messaging, why the coach and Bieniemy need each other, defensive line roster intrigue, and Jake Fromm as QB3. Then Doc enters to share what actually matters in preseason games, Sam Howell, Kazmeir Allen/sleepers, and Rivera-Bieniemy.

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