Ali AlShamsi is a financial trader, entrepreneur, and investor in the United Arab Emirates. Having worked with over 100 companies, Ali actively promotes the growth of new business with his experience and network. Ali and I discuss how to become successful (and objections to his formula), raising money from investors, adjusting your standards for success (both up and down) and his vision for the future of economics.

You can read his writing at http://alioalshamsi.com/ and find him on Quora at https://www.quora.com/profile/Ali-AlShamsi-1.

Kylon Gienger is a serial entrepreneur and host of The Successful Dropout Podcast (listen to my interview here). Kylon left college to become a youth pastor (we had a great conversation on theology before the recording was rolling...I cover it in the intro briefly) and eventually launched several businesses and has one exit under his belt. Kylon has since interviewed nearly 50 successful dropouts, looking to dissect what makes these people -- rarely credential-praisers or those impressed with fancy titles -- tick compared to other high-performing people.

Ethan Bence (from Doers 019) joins me to discuss hip hop, race and hip hop, and how to get ahead in the hip hop game with the Internet.

All episodes of Doers are produced by Lacey Peace.