Does the Bible say THAT?!?

More names. More genealogy. A lot of geography. Dave tackles the Table of Nations chronicling people groups from Shem, Ham and Japheth spreading out from the ancient near east. Dave spends a fair amount of time discussing the outlier of Nimrod being included in this genealogy. Plus, a very special guest right around the 1 hour mark of the show.

Sources for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17 by Victor P. Hamilton

*The JPS Torah Commentary by Dr. Nahum M. Sama

*"...A Mighty Hunter Before the YHWH": Genesis 10:9 and the Moral-Theological Evaluation of Nimrod". Vetus Testamentum by Mary Katherine Y.H. Hom

*Nimrod the Mighty, King of Kish, King of Sumer and Akkad (Paper) by Yigal Levin

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The gnarly and wild chapter of Genesis chapter 9 is tackled with help from the wonderful Billie Hoard. Dave and Billie talk about the rainbow sign included in the Noahic covenant, capital punishment, drunk and naked Noah, the curse of Ham, and how the Bible can be weaponized to harm people when theology is imposed on the Bible and is not supported by the text.

Listen to Billie and Dr. Paul Hoard talk about disgust theology on The New Evangelicals: https://podcastaddict.com/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/episode/154893865

Follow Billie Hoard on social media (@billieiswriting):

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Sources used for this episode:

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*The Book of Genesis: Chapters 1-17 by Victor P. Hamilton

*Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson

*Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used And Abused in American Politics And Where We Go From Here by Kaitlyn Schiess

*The Cross and the Lynching Tree by Dr. James Cone

*From Noah's Curse to Slavery's Rationale". The New York Times by Felicia R. Lee. https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/01/arts/from-noah-s-curse-to-slavery-s-rationale.html

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Continuing on with the flood account, Dave walks listeners through God's judgment winding down. The waters begin to recede. A world is re-created. Noah sends out birds. God smells the pleasing aroma of a burnt sacrifice.

Sources used for this episode:

*The New International Commentary on the Old Testament: The Book of Genesis 1-17 by Victor P Hamilton

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*"Julian Calendar". Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/science/Julian-calendar

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In this special episode which is complimentary to going through the account of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood located in Genesis 6-9, host Dave Lester discusses how churches teach about Noah's Ark, talks about varying views on the scope of the great deluge and goes into detail about the truly wild accounts of people trying to search for Noah's Ark on Mount Ararat in Eastern Turkey. Buckle up!

Sources for this episode:

Evangelicals and Science in Historical Perspective, "A Sign for an Unbelieving Age: Evangelicals and the Search for Noah's Ark" by Larry Eskridge

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*Noah's Ark and the Ziusudra Epic by R. M. Best

*"The Mediterranean Flood". Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith by G.R. Morton

*"The Pseudoarchaeology of Noah's Ark" Archaeology Review by Carl Feagans. https://ahotcupofjoe.net/2020/12/the-pseudoarchaeology-of-noahs-ark/?utm_source=www.google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=Google&referrer-analytics=1

*"Avalanche at Mount Ararat". Trove. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/38282531

*"Did Sennacherib, King of Assyria, Worship Wood From Noah's Ark as a Deity?" Life and Land by Gordon Franz. https://www.lifeandland.org/2013/10/did-sennacherib-king-of-assyria-worship-wood-from-noah%E2%80%99s-ark-as-a-deity/

*"Did Someone Really Find Noah's Ark" ICR Institute for Creation Research by Brian Thomas. https://www.icr.org/article/did-someone-really-find-noahs-ark

*The Landing Place of Noah's Ark: Testimonial, Geological and Historical Considerations Part Four" Associates for Biblical Research by Rick Lanser. https://www.biblearchaeology.org/research/contemporary-issues/4112-the-landingplace-of-noahs-ark-testimonial-geological-and-historical-considerations-part-four

*"Major Events of the Noah's Ark Expedition" https://biblearchaeology.org/research/contemporary-issues/4112-the-landingplace-of-noahs-ark-testimonial-geological-and-historical-considerations-part-four

*History of the Armenians Book Three by P'awstos Buzandac'i's. https://www.attalus.org/armenian/pb2.htm#10.

*The Eytomologies of Isidore of Seville by Isidore of Seville

*"Culture Ministry Launches Investigation Over Noah's Ark Claim" Today's Zaman by https://web.archive.org/web/20141022162942/http://www.todayszaman.com/national_culture-ministry-launches-investigation-over-noahs-ark-claims_208841.html

*"NZ Hoax Went Round the World" New Zealand Herald by Brian Rudman and Ana Samways https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ibrian-rudmani-nz-hoax-went-round-world/562U6HFYSYYWWNASL4TLSQWGMU/

*The Ark on Ararat by Tim LaHaye and John Morris

*"French Expedition to Mt. Ararat Fails to Find Traces of Noah's Ark" Jewish Telegraphic Agency https://www.jta.org/archive/french-expedition-to-mt-ararat-fails-to-find-traces-of-noahs-ark

*The Ark File by Rene Noorbergen

*Noah's Ark: Fable or Fact by Violet M Cummings

*"Ex-Astronaut James Irwin, 61, Founded Evangelical Organization". Chicago Sun Times by New York Times News Service. https://www.chicagotribune.com/1991/08/11/ex-astronaut-james-irwin-61-founded-evangelical-organization/

*In Search of the Lost Mountains of Noah: The Discovery of the Real Mts of Ararat By Robert Comuke

*Agri-Dagh (Mount Ararat): The Painful Mountain by Don Shockey

"The Search for Noah's Ark (Critique of the 2008 Video Tape Produced by the BASE Institute of Colorado Springs, CO) by Gordon Franz, Bill Crouse, and Rex Geissler. https://www.noahsarksearch.com/Cornuke_The_Search_For_Noah's_Ark_DVD_Review.pdf

*"Sun Goes Down in Flames: The Jammal Ark Hoax" by Jim Lippard. https://www.discord.org/lippard/skeptic/02.3.lippard-ark-hoax.html

"Phony Arkaeology". Time Magazine by Leon Jaroff

*"Doubt Cast on Noah's Ark Found in Turkey". The Christian Science Monitor by Stephen Kurczy. https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/0428/Doubt-cast-on-Noah-s-ark-found-in-Turkey

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On this special episode, Eli Price joins Dave Lester to chat about Darren Aronofsky's Noah movie which came out in 2014.

Listen to Eli Price's podcast right here: https://www.establishingshotpod.com/

Watch the preview for the Noah movie right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdu10cX3pWA

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The Genesis Flood account part two! Eli Price (from The Establishing Shot podcast) joins me to talk about this main section of one of the most famous disaster stories of all time. We talk about the scope of the flood, clean and unclean animals and more. Plus, Eli talks about his podcast "The Establishing Shot" and Louisiana food cuisine.

Listen to Eli Price's podcast right here: https://www.establishingshotpod.com/

Sources used for this episode:

*New American Commentary: Genesis by Kenneth Matthews

*Come Out My People!: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook

*From Creation to the Cross: Understanding the First Half of the Bible by Albert H Baylis

*Free of Charge: Giving and Forgiving in a Culture Stripped of Grace by Miroslav Volf

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*"What Made Some Animals Clean and others Unclean? Gotquestions.org (https://www.gotquestions.org/animals-clean-unclean.html)

Sources for a local flood in the Ancient Near East (Black Sea area):

*"Evidence for a Flood". Smithsonianmag.com by James Trefil (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/)

*"Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard" abcnews.go.com (https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533)

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In this special episode, host Dave Lester shares a sermon on Luke 7:36-50 that he preached at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on January 28, 2024.

Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church website: http://www.ckpc.org/

Sources for this episode (Sermon):

*The New Testament In Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature and Theology of the First Christians by NT Wright and Michael F. Bird

*Word Biblical Commentary: Luke 1:1-9:20 by John Nolland

*The New International Commentary on the New Testament: The Gospel of Luke by Joel B. Green

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After the weird start to Genesis 6, Dave Lester and Pastor Tyler Kirkpatrick wrestle with part 1 of the Genesis Flood in the Scriptures. They discuss the character of Noah, the problem of evil (including the question of why God would want to wipe out a creation that God had previously called "very good"), they discuss universal flood vs local flood and how to read/interpret the first 11 chapters of Genesis primeval history. Tyler also shares what it is like to be a pastor in a bitterly divided time.

You can read more information on Pastor Tyler Kirkpatrick and CK Presbyterian Church right here: http://www.ckpc.org/leadership

Sources used for this episode:

*"Lebanese Cedar- The Prized Tree of Ancient Woodworking" by Biblical Archaeology Society Staff on https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/artifacts-and-the-bible/lebanese-cedar-the-prized-tree-of-ancient-woodworking/

*"Ethical Conundrums: How Long is a Biblical Cubit?" by Michael L Cox on https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1126,00.html

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

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In the prelude to the Great Flood story, we encounter the "sons of God" marrying the daughters of men as well as the Nephilim. Plus God repents of making humanity and declares God is going to send a great flood? Who are the sons of God? Who are the Nephilim? What does it mean that God repented? Dave Lester tackles one of the most difficult passages in the Bible to interpret with assistance from his college and seminary friend: Pastor Lee Compson. The first guest ever on the show!

Pastor Lee Compson is a published author and is the pastor of First Milford Brethren Church in Indiana and is an all-around great guy.

Get a copy of Lee Compson's commentary he co-authored right here: https://www.amazon.com/Kings-Commentary-Biblical-Preaching-Teaching/dp/0825425581

Sources used on this episode:

*"The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men" by Bob Deffinbaugh on bible.org: https://bible.org/seriespage/sons-god-and-daughters-men-genesis-61-8

*The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton

*Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham

*The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas

*Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman

*When Critics Ask: A Popular Handbook on Bible Difficulties By Norman Geisler and Thomas Howe

*Genesis: History, Fiction, or Neither? Three Views on the Bible's Earliest Chapters by James K Hoffmeier, Gordon J Wenham, and Kenton L Sparks

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Merry Christmas! Thank you so much for listening to this podcast! In this special episode, Dave Lester gives a Christmas reflection while drawing back to the account of the first Christmas and what that can mean for us today.

Sources used for this episode:

*The Jesus I Never Knew by Philip Yancey

*"God’s power or human violence: The meaning of the virgin birth" by Dr. Esau McCaulley. In Religion News Service. https://religionnews.com/2022/12/21/gods-power-or-violence-the-meaning-of-the-virgin-birth/

*"The Nativity and Mission of Jesus" by Shelli M Poe. In Women in Theology. https://womenintheology.org/2020/12/13/the-nativity-and-mission-of-jesus/

*Mere Christianity by CS Lewis

*Follow Munther Isaac on X/Twitter: @muntherisaac

*Follow Shane Claiborne on X/Twitter: @ShaneClaiborne

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