In this episode, Julie and her sub Artifiction discuss some of the challenges of moving from Dominant/submissive desires to actually translating those desires to relationships that can be manifested in the real world. They discuss D/s as an abstraction as well as some of its practical realities. Along the way, they talk about major obstacles in this process of creating these relationships, as well as how they began to create the dynamic that they both wanted.

(When recording the episode, Julie promised to look up the answer to the question, "do men quit their jobs more than women?" The answer turns out to be, "alas, the question is too complicated to answer effectively.")

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