Alice Hunt Friend of the Center for Strategic and International Studies joins Emma Ashford and Trevor Thrall to talk about the increasingly strained relations between civilian and military leaders in the Trump administration. 

• Alice Hunt Friend bio: https://www.csis.org/people/alice-hunt-friend
• This is What Was So Unusual About Making Capt. Bret Crozier Step Down: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/05/this-is-what-was-so-unusual-about-us-navy-making-captain-brett-crozier-step-down/ 
• The Military Can’t Save Us From Covid-19: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/04/14/military-cant-save-us-covid-19.html 

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