Camilla is in heaven: surrounded by Lefties, as Labour descends on Liverpool for its first annual conference since the election. But what should have been a jolly jamboree has been overshadowed by the cash-for-clothes scandal and a row over the winter fuel payment cut.

Kamal and Camilla unpack Rachel Reeves speech - was it style over substance? - and speak to Jonathan Ashworth, the ousted Labour MP, about what the new government is getting wrong.

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Producer: Lilian Fawcett and Georgia Coan

Senior Producer: John Cadigan

Planning Editor: Venetia Rainey

Executive Producer: Louisa Wells

Camera Operator: Andy Mackenzie

Video Editor: Luke Goodsall

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Editor: Camilla Tominey

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