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Don't Be Boring, Here's the Fix: Storytelling 101
Episode 54: "Don't Be Boring, Here's the Fix: Storytelling 101"
Ever watched someone's eyes glaze over the second you started talking? You're not imagining it. And it's fixable.
Episode Description
This year, two interviews landed on Shelly's calendar that felt like a dream to book. Both guests are good people living lives of real service. Both conversations still fell flat, and not because of who they were.
In this solo episode, Shelly unpacks what those two conversations had in common, and holds it up against a very different reaction from early in the show's history, a conversation with an eleven-time New York Times bestselling author that still stands as one of the best interviews on the podcast. The difference wasn't credentials. It was storytelling.
You'll walk away with a new way to think about who owns your story, who doesn't, and the one shift that turns "talking about yourself" into a story people lean into instead of tune out of.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Promise
01:22 Two Interviews Fell Flat
03:09 Donald Miller Breakthrough
05:39 Why Stories Hook Us
09:10 Zoom In on Stakes
11:43 Permission vs Craft
15:48 Interviewer Skill Gap
17:09 Three Questions to Open Up
21:21 Takeaways and Closing
Key Topics
- Why the most accomplished people can still tell a boring story
- The difference between owning your story and earning permission to tell it
- What good storytelling borrows from Save the Cat and The Seven Basic Plots
- Why the interviewer's own skill matters as much as the guest's story
Next Week: Episode 55 — Andy Stumpf, US Navy SEAL (ret.)
Resources & Links
Learn More:
- Hardcore and At Ease Framework: https://www.OthersOverSelf.com
- Personal Mission Statement Workshop: [email protected]
- Book a Strategy Session: [email protected]
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Get the Gear: 📊 My Business Report: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/biz-report 🎯 StoryBrand.ai: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/storybrand-ai 📚 Business Made Simple: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/bms 🚀 Flight School: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/flight-school 📈 My Marketing Report: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/marketing-report
Subscribe & Connect
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | https://othersoverself.com
Connect: LinkedIn: Mission Ambition | Instagram: @OthersOverSelf | Twitter/X: @OthersOverSelf
Email: [email protected]
Rate & Review: Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts
Work with Shelly: One-on-One Coaching | Personal Mission Statement Workshop | Team Training. Book a discovery call: [email protected]
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By Mission Ambition, LLCEpisode 54: "Don't Be Boring, Here's the Fix: Storytelling 101"
Ever watched someone's eyes glaze over the second you started talking? You're not imagining it. And it's fixable.
Episode Description
This year, two interviews landed on Shelly's calendar that felt like a dream to book. Both guests are good people living lives of real service. Both conversations still fell flat, and not because of who they were.
In this solo episode, Shelly unpacks what those two conversations had in common, and holds it up against a very different reaction from early in the show's history, a conversation with an eleven-time New York Times bestselling author that still stands as one of the best interviews on the podcast. The difference wasn't credentials. It was storytelling.
You'll walk away with a new way to think about who owns your story, who doesn't, and the one shift that turns "talking about yourself" into a story people lean into instead of tune out of.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Promise
01:22 Two Interviews Fell Flat
03:09 Donald Miller Breakthrough
05:39 Why Stories Hook Us
09:10 Zoom In on Stakes
11:43 Permission vs Craft
15:48 Interviewer Skill Gap
17:09 Three Questions to Open Up
21:21 Takeaways and Closing
Key Topics
- Why the most accomplished people can still tell a boring story
- The difference between owning your story and earning permission to tell it
- What good storytelling borrows from Save the Cat and The Seven Basic Plots
- Why the interviewer's own skill matters as much as the guest's story
Next Week: Episode 55 — Andy Stumpf, US Navy SEAL (ret.)
Resources & Links
Learn More:
- Hardcore and At Ease Framework: https://www.OthersOverSelf.com
- Personal Mission Statement Workshop: [email protected]
- Book a Strategy Session: [email protected]
Affiliate Disclaimer: I earn commissions when you purchase through links on this site, podcast, or social media. I only recommend products and services I genuinely use and believe will help you. These commissions come at no additional cost to you and help support the content I create. For complete details, see our full affiliate policy.
Get the Gear: 📊 My Business Report: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/biz-report 🎯 StoryBrand.ai: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/storybrand-ai 📚 Business Made Simple: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/bms 🚀 Flight School: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/flight-school 📈 My Marketing Report: https://hardcore-and-at-ease.captivate.fm/marketing-report
Subscribe & Connect
Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | https://othersoverself.com
Connect: LinkedIn: Mission Ambition | Instagram: @OthersOverSelf | Twitter/X: @OthersOverSelf
Email: [email protected]
Rate & Review: Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts
Work with Shelly: One-on-One Coaching | Personal Mission Statement Workshop | Team Training. Book a discovery call: [email protected]