Don't Change Much

You might know Mark Holland as Canada's former Health Minister, or from his current role as CEO of Toronto’s famous CNE. But you might not know about his high degree of beard envy, his flair for what he wears, or the winding road that brought him to where he is today.

In this episode, Mark discusses what it was like to serve in a public-facing role during some of the most challenging health issues of our generation — along with what his life outside that role looked like then, and now.

After a turning point in 2011, when he lost his political seat, Holland watched much of the life he had built change at once. His career, marriage and relationship with his children suffered. He was struggling while standing under the public spotlight, but asking for help felt like admitting he was weak.

Mark opens up about where that need to prove himself came from, the toll of spending years in public life, and what he learned about himself when he finally reached his limits. He also shares what helped pull him back and what he does differently today.

The conversation then turns to the bigger picture of men’s health in Canada and what Holland learned from leading the country’s health portfolio. A man who once believed keeping everything to himself was for the best reflects on why it’s time to let go of that idea. 

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In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down for a conversation about something most of us are dealing with more often: how do you talk to someone you fundamentally disagree with without getting angry, shutting down, or losing yourself in the process?

They get into the difference between listening to someone and accepting what they believe, why compassion still requires boundaries and accountability, and when protecting your own mental health means simply walking away. Mike shares his "lighthouse, not tugboat" approach: you can shine a light and offer support, but you can't steer someone else's ship for them.

The conversation also turns to ego and the pressure to be right. Trevor talks about learning to admit when he's wrong, questioning beliefs he once held tightly, and recognizing that some of the behaviours that protected him earlier in life don't serve him anymore. Mike and Trevor explore why changing your mind isn't weakness, and why challenging the idea instead of the person can completely change a difficult conversation.

It's an honest conversation about disagreement, boundaries, masculinity, self-awareness, and giving yourself permission to evolve.

 

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In this episode, Mike and Trevor sit down with author and workshop leader Alison Armstrong to talk about shame, and specifically the kind a lot of men carry around without naming it.

Armstrong makes a claim that catches both hosts off guard: shame isn't proof you're a bad man. It's a sign you hold yourself to standards that are impossible to meet. That opens up a longer thread on self-forgiveness and why saying "I'm only human" reads more like a confession than an excuse.

Trevor talks about his seven years in recovery, including the years his addiction cost him with his daughters. Forgiving himself, he says, was what finally let him show back up for them. The conversation also gets into how the brain handles addiction and why anger can be easier to sit with than fear.

It's an honest, sometimes uncomfortable conversation about accountability and being straight with yourself.

Resources from Alison Armstrong for our listeners:

Being Extraordinary as a Man: https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/curriculum/bex/buy_bem.html

Online Curriculum Free Samples: https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/samples/

Extreme Freedom: https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/extreme_freedom/

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One conversation can change a life.

One life can change thousands.

In this special live episode of the Don't Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin join the Big Red Mental Health Society's annual Drive to Thrive Golf Tournament, where family, friends, and community members gather to honour Adam Hobbs and continue the work his legacy inspired.

Adam's siblings Brandon, Jake, Julia, and Zach share what it's been like to turn unimaginable loss into purpose. Five years after losing Adam, they've built a community that has raised more than $100,000 for men's mental health while creating something even more valuable: permission for men to talk.

The conversation explores grief, brotherhood, and the belief that strength isn't about carrying everything alone. It's about building your pit crew, reaching out before things become overwhelming, and realizing that asking for help isn't weakness. It's one of the toughest things a man can do.

Canadian Men's Health Foundation ambassador Trevor "Big Red" Greene reflects on how our definition of toughness has changed over the years and why vulnerability requires far more courage than silence. Together, the guests remind us that every man has people who care about him, even when he can't see it himself.

This episode is a powerful reminder that healing happens in community, that grief doesn't have to be carried alone, and that one conversation today could save someone's life tomorrow.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• How one family's loss became a movement for men's mental health
• Why talking about mental health saves lives
• What real toughness actually looks like
• Why every man needs a "pit crew" of people he can lean on
• How communities can help break the stigma around men's mental health
• Why legacy isn't measured by how long you live, but by the lives you touch
• The importance of reaching out before a crisis happens
• How small conversations can create lasting change

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Most men have been taught to handle it themselves. The problem is that silence has a cost.

And Canada's Minister of Health — a woman, no less — isn't willing to stay quiet about it.

Loneliness gets brushed off as nothing. The pressure to "be strong" gets handed down to sons and grandsons. Addiction and suicide rates climb, and warning signs get missed because no one was ever supposed to ask for help in the first place.

In this episode of the Don't Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with the Honourable Marjorie Michel to talk about the federal consultation on a national Men and Boys Health Strategy, and why she decided this was a challenge worth picking.

What started as a series of cross-country conversations turned into a wake-up call. Hon. Minister Michel shares how the same word kept coming up, trip after trip, across trades workers, fathers, and Indigenous communities alike, and how that pattern convinced her — a self-described lifelong feminist — that men's health needed its own seat at the table. The conversation moves through loneliness, the pressure to perform masculinity, the addiction and suicide statistics she can't ignore as Canada’s Health Minister, and why she believes progress for men and progress for women aren't in competition with each other.

You'll hear:

• Why the Minister calls herself "the holistic Minister of Health"
• How a pattern of conversations on the road turned into a national consultation
• The link between trades work, injury, and addiction
• Why men need space to talk without women in the room, and why that's not a "boys' club"
• What the Minister wants every man and boy to know about asking for help

Because no policy, no government, and no single person can carry this alone. Sometimes leadership just means opening the door to a conversation that's long overdue.

Get your Suspenders On this June. Wear them. Share why. Donate. Invite others.

Tag @menshealthfdn #SuspendersOn #NeverAlone #MensHealthMonth

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Most men know when something isn't right. The problem is they often wait.

A checkup gets pushed to next month. A difficult conversation gets delayed. The little voice in the back of the head gets ignored until it can't be ignored anymore.

This June, the Canadian Men's Health Foundation is asking Canadians to get their Suspenders On — a simple visual reminder that men are never meant to carry everything alone. In this episode, Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with the men behind the campaign: Graham Love and John Armstrong of Armstrong Strategy Group, who built Suspenders On from the ground up, and Andrew Jackson of Jackson Events, who's helping rally NHL alumni and other Canadian athletes to put their suspenders on too.

The idea started six weeks before launch, in a brainstorm at the Armstrong office. Graham thought of his grandfather — a Glaswegian shipbuilder who wore suspenders so often the marks were on his back. The image stuck, the campaign followed.

What the conversation reveals is everything underneath it.

John Armstrong tells the story of a pact he made with a colleague who needed to see a doctor: if you go, I'll go. The appointment that followed caught John's prostate cancer in time.

Graham wears his suspenders for his brother Andrew, who died of liver cancer in 2022 and who Graham believes might still be here if anyone had nudged him sooner.

Andrew Jackson opens up about a friend who made him promise to see a doctor before he died of stomach cancer at 56, about losing hockey alumnus Claude Lemieux just days before recording, and about a moment in his own office when a colleague asked him what the hell is wrong with you, and he finally let it out.

Some of what they talk about:

• The joke that captures the whole campaign: "Women go to the doctor for the same reason men don't; in case there's something wrong"
• Why high performers in sports, business, and the trades are especially good at carrying things they shouldn't
• The relief that arrives the moment a man finally says it out loud
• How "I'll deal with it later" becomes the most dangerous sentence in men's health

Get your Suspenders On this June. Wear them. Share why. Donate. Invite others. 

Tag @menshealthfdn #SuspendersOn #NeverAlone #MensHealthMonth

 

Donate to Suspenders On: https://menshealthfoundation.ca/canadian-mens-health-month/

 

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Content note: This episode discusses suicide and medical assistance in dying. Support: call or text 9-8-8 anytime in Canada.

Zack Heil was at a Subway in Hamilton at 1am when something small changed his life. A homeless woman couldn't afford her sub. He bought it for her, and she told him no one had ever done that for her before. He went home and started a men's mental health movement that night. He's 19.

Trevor McLaughlin is on the other side of the conversation. In 2022, he applied for therapy in Ontario and was told the wait was 14 months. His next phone call was to ask how to apply for medical assistance in dying. He's still here. In June 2027, he's biking 8,200 kilometres across Canada with a campaign called Annihilate the Walls.

Hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with both of them. Two men recognizing each other across a twelve-year gap. One figuring it out in real time. And the other who's been to the bottom and back.

This episode kicks off Canadian Men's Health Month. Get your Suspenders On for the men in your life. Wear them. Share why. Donate. Invite others.

Donate: https://menshealthfoundation.ca/canadian-mens-health-month/

#SuspendersOn #NeverAlone #MensHealthMonth

 

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Call Your Bros

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Fatherhood does not come with a manual. For a lot of men, it comes with pressure, fear, old patterns, and the quiet belief that they are supposed to figure it out on their own.

In this episode of the Don’t Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with Brandon Hay and Dr. David Kuhl for a grounded conversation about fatherhood, community, and the places men finally talk. Mike brings the lens of a proud father watching his son step into adulthood, while Trevor connects the conversation to recovery, ceremony, and the power of finding yourself in a room with other men who understand.

Brandon shares the work behind Black Daddies Club, Sunday Dinners, barbershop conversations, hikes, and community spaces built with Black fathers and men, not for them from a distance. David adds his perspective on why men’s health support works best when it goes where men already are and creates the right conditions for honesty.

Together, they explore what happens when men have spaces where the mask can come down, mentorship can happen naturally, and fatherhood can be figured out in community.

You’ll hear:

• Why fatherhood can feel isolating, even when men care deeply
• How community spaces help men speak honestly without forcing it
• Why support has to be built with men, not handed down to them
• How mentorship, food, ceremony, and shared experience can change what men believe is possible

This is a conversation about men, fatherhood, and connection. Not a lecture. Not a fix. Just a reminder that men do not have to figure it all out alone

 

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• TedX - Redefining Fatherhood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OVH9UnDVk&
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  TedX Talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong

 

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Why are so many young men turning to the internet for answers?

For a lot of guys, the search starts with something simple.

A question about success. A question about relationships. A question about who they’re supposed to be.

But it doesn’t take long before that search leads them into something bigger.

The manosphere.

A world of content that promises clarity, confidence, and control.

But often comes with a very different cost.

In this episode of the Don’t Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with Dr. Paul Sharp, a researcher focused on men’s health and identity, to break down what’s really happening.

They talk about why so many men feel lost right now. The role of social media algorithms in shaping beliefs. And why this content is spreading faster than ever.

Because the reality is, most men aren’t looking for extremes.

They’re looking for connection. They’re looking for belonging. They’re looking for answers.

And when they don’t find that in real life, they go online.

This conversation explores what draws men in, what keeps them there, and what we can do differently.

Because this isn’t just about the internet.

It’s about identity. It’s about community. It’s about what it means to be a man today.

 

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why the manosphere is growing and who it’s reaching
• How algorithms amplify extreme content over time
• What young men are really searching for online
• The impact of isolation and lack of connection
• Why traditional ideas of masculinity are being challenged
• How real-world relationships can counter online influence
• Simple ways to build stronger, more meaningful connections

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• Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/5rSzbqlPjESA63g75f1xgl   
• Website - https://www.unsw.edu.au/staff/paul-sharp 

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  Website - https://mikecameron.ca/
  TedX Talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong

 

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“I got this.”

For a lot of men, those three words feel like strength.

But they can also be the loneliest words you’ll ever say.

The “I got this” mentality often starts as resilience, but can turn into isolation. Learning to speak up, lean on others, and build support can actually make you stronger.

In this episode of the Don’t Change Much Podcast, hosts Mike Cameron and Trevor Botkin sit down with Shawn Underhill and James Boseley. Two men who’ve spent years working in the trades and construction industry and know firsthand what it means to push through pain, stay silent, and carry more than they should.

They share real stories from the job site. Long hours. Injuries. Chronic pain. Pressure to keep going no matter what.

And what happens when you never stop?

Because in the trades, asking for help doesn’t always feel like an option. The expectation is to be tough, to handle it, to figure it out on your own.

But that mindset can come at a cost.

Physical injuries that get worse over time.

Mental health struggles that stay hidden.

Pain that doesn’t just go away.

Because you don’t need to hit rock bottom to make a change.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why “I got this” can be both strength and a warning sign
• The hidden mental and physical cost of toughing it out
• How trades culture impacts men’s health and help-seeking behavior
• The connection between chronic pain, stress, and mental health
• Why many men avoid asking for help (and how to change that)
• How community and support can actually build resilience
• What real strength looks like in today’s world
• Simple ways to start opening up and getting support

 

Support This Podcast and Canadian Men's Health Foundation

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If you, a friend or a family member is looking for support to live better with chronic pain, please reach out to Pain BC https://painbc.ca/ 

 

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• Website - https://mikecameron.ca/
• TedX Talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cameron_redefining_badass_the_way_we_think_about_strong_is_wrong

 

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