Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with Rev. Brenda Salter McNeil about her latest book, Becoming Brave. McNeil shares how to find the courage to pursue racial justice now and her leadership in the church during the Black Lives Matter movement.

"This conversation is not a national conversation we're having, it's a global conversation," McNeil says. "And the whole world is watching and waiting to see if the church is going to come or not. And my prayer is that our answer is going to be a resounding, 'yes we're here. We cannot not come.'"

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