Don't Say Content

Don't Say Content

By Devin Bramhall & Margaret KelseyBusinessMarketingManagement
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Don't Say Content episodes

  • Wait, Why Are We Podcasting?

    Getting behind the mic and discussing industry trends, professional (and personal) growth, and sharing their stories has led to a lot of learnings and even more growth for our hosts, Devin and Margaret. 


    In this episode, they reflect on what they’ve learned and where this podcast journey has taken us. We’re bringing season 1 to a close with humor, wit, and a peek behind the curtain at the podcast process.  (But don’t worry, we’ll be back before you know it.) 


    Stay with us to the end for a special reading from Jenn Hirsh, futurist and astrologer, and former Ernst and Young Head of Startups and Futurist. And check out Soulful Wealth here: https://soulfulwealth.co/


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/



    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:28) - Segment
  • (13:03) - Segment 2
  • (20:28) - Segment
  • (29:03) - Soulful Wealth
  • (37:27) - Outro
  • (37:53) - Extra End Credit Funny Story
  • 39 min
  • Fear is Your Frenemy. Make it Your Friend

    When left unresolved, fear keeps us from being productive, connecting with others, and ultimately from personal and career growth. It also never goes away and in fact, can become an even bigger obstacle as you progress in your career.


    Whether you work for yourself, run a team or a company, fear surfaces over and over to present unique challenges. But when you learn how to work with fear, it can lead to a kind of bravery and curiosity that transforms your creativity and careers.


    In this episode, Devin and Margaret invite fear to the table for a little chat. Listen as they share their experiences navigating fear professionally and personally, publicly and privately, alongside each other and their most trusted community (including some top-tier advice from Momma Bramhall).


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/


    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/t


    To submit an executive thrashing or marketing nightmare story for the podcast, record your story (2 min. or less) here: https://www.speakpipe.com/dontsaycontent


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius:


    https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:50) - Segment 1
  • (07:12) - Segment 2
  • (13:05) - Segment 3
  • (22:48) - Segment 4
  • (33:54) - 2
  • (35:56) - Segment 3
  • (38:28) - Outro
  • 39 min
  • Killing Your Darlings

    Killing your darlings. Creative constraints. Narrowing scope. In this episode, Devin and Margaret face the challenge of focus—how to create focus for your team without stifling creativity? How do you relinquish control to your direct reports and peers so you can focus on the bigger picture? High performers at any level crave nuance and challenge, and sometimes that means killing your darling idea to focus on something else. Tune in to hear Devin and Margaret share their own experiences navigating this through their careers.Plus, Futurist Astrologer Jenn Hirsch levels with  Devin and Margaret about the chaos in store over the next three years. Giddy up.



    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/


    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/t


    To submit an executive thrashing or marketing nightmare story for the podcast, record your story (2 min. or less) here: https://www.speakpipe.com/dontsaycontent



    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius:


    https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:53) - Segment
  • (27:37) - Ending Segment
  • (31:31) - Soulful Wealth (Going to fade into this)
  • 37 min
  • Rage Against Frameworks and Playbooks

    Instead of frameworks and playbooks, let’s talk about how culture, brand, content, and community intertwine to create a successful marketing strategy. In this episode, Devin and Margaret remind us that marketing isn’t always about numbers and tactics. What really makes marketing departments successful? What fuels recruitment and retention of employees while also building a community around the brand? 



    To submit an executive thrashing or marketing nightmare story for the podcast, record your story (2 min. or less) here: https://www.speakpipe.com/dontsaycontent


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/t


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius:

    https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • (00:00) - Intro
  • (01:09) - Discussion - Flywheel Part 1
  • (13:41) - Discussion - Flywheel Part 2
  • (22:55) - Discussion - Social Posts
  • (31:56) - OF for fun
  • (35:22) - Outro
  • 36 min
  • Marketing Leadership Blindspots

    Remember when you felt like your boss just “didn’t get it”? They didn’t understand your constraints, your blockers, how much you are doing? It turns out, when YOU then become a boss, despite your best intentions, it’s easy to make those same mistakes. How come? One contributor is that you’re confronted with an equation you never anticipated before you were in your boss’ shoes. And that repeats as you move from manager to director and onwards. In this week’s episode, Devin and Margaret are talking about one leadership blindspot in particular: the feeling vs fact of company structure constraints.


    To submit an executive thrashing or marketing nightmare story for the podcast, record your story (2 min. or less) here: https://www.speakpipe.com/dontsaycontent


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius.

    • (00:00) - DSC-Video-Leadership
  • (00:02) - Intro
  • (00:59) - Discussion
  • (09:25) - Discussion
  • (19:25) - Discussion
  • (24:58) - Discussion
  • (34:58) - Marker
  • 36 min
  • Yes, and-ing personal brand

    In this episode, we're exploring how the evolution of personal brand in B2B is changing everything from strategy to roles to team structure. Plus Margaret and Devin share their very different personal brand experiences.


    Plus, Futurist Astrologer, Jenn Hirsch, shares her take on personal branding in 2023 in light of a more recent trend, the mycelium network. 


    To submit a marketing nightmare story for the podcast, record your story (2 min. or less) here: https://www.speakpipe.com/dontsaycontent


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/


    Soulful Wealth: https://soulfulwealth.co/


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius.

    https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • (00:00) - DSC - Video - Personal Brand
  • (00:02) - Intro (See script for details)
  • (00:55) - Headlines Block
  • (10:34) - Discussion Block (MUSIC SHIFT)
  • (15:44) - Marketing Nightmare Story
  • (17:01) - Discussion
  • (36:12) - Outro
  • 37 min
  • What do the job market, viral LinkedIn posts, and quiet quitting have in common?

    In this episode, Devin and Margaret discuss the wet blanket trend of marketers complaining about work. From quiet quitting to rage applying, they are totally bored by this macro passive-aggressive trend and can’t wait for marketers to start creating again. Devin and Margaret look back on the early days of their careers in marketing, and what the industry looks like for current and future marketing leaders.


    Plus, Futurist Astrologer, Jenn Hirsch, shares her take on hiring and firing and the opportunity it presents for creatives.


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius.

    • (00:00) - Intro
  • (03:57) - Music bumper to indicate context shift
  • (17:57) - Music Bumper
  • (26:22) - Empty Thougths
  • (31:20) - End of Empty Thoughts End Bumper
  • (37:24) - Music Bumper
  • 47 min
  • Introducing Don't Say Content

    Welcome to Don’t Say Content, a new podcast hosted by Devin Bramhall and Margaret Kelsey.


    Are you a:

    —a leader of people?

    —creative-minded individual?

    —someone who enjoys a good spicy take?


    Every Tuesday Devin and Margaret say what’s really on their minds about the marketing industry. After over 10 years in the industry, they are bored with the current state of marketing. So they made a podcast to inspire themselves and fellow marketing leaders who feel the same. They aren’t sharing tactics, playbooks or guides. They aren’t interviewing smart people (or anyone) about marketing. They are talking to each other about why they are annoyed with marketing and what they think needs to change to make it better. 


    Plus, get weekly predictions from futurist astrologer, Jenn Hirsch, founder of Soulful Wealth.


    For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com.


    Follow Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Follow Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/

    Follow Jenn: https://soulfulwealth.substack.com/


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius.


    Follow Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

    Follow Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/


    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius.

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The marketing and business strategy podcast that executives and marketing leaders can't stop talking about. 


Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) &…