In this honest episode of Cornerstone Conversations, Trevor and Pastor Josh talk about what it really means to follow Jesus when obedience comes with a price. From jelly bean challenges gone wrong to raw personal stories of early marriage, fatherhood, and ministry, this episode blends laughter and truth in a way only they can.

They unpack how humility, obedience, and sacrifice work together in our calling—and why the hardest moments often lead to the greatest joy. Whether you’re in a season of loss, transition, or tension between where you are and where you want to be, this conversation will remind you that God still does His best work after your hardest yes.

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