This week, we talk about life updates, including Laurel's take on a traffic ticket she received and how she plans to defend it, Valerie's experience last week with cops on a major highway, and animals that make their way into our hearts.

Valerie tells Laurel about the "Baby Bike Discourse" started by a TikTok user (@hellodimeji) when his son requested to have his own bike and how it's taken over her FYP over the last few months, which takes some unexpected twists along the way.

Additionally, Laurel talks about what move-in time is like working in a college town and about public perception of people and their bodies, particularly those who do not fit societies standards of "appropriate" and how we, as a whole, should approach such things with more care, understanding, and simply compassion.

Come hang out with us between episodes, see behind the scenes content, join the conversations, and keep up with everything we've got planned.

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As always, thank you for listening, sharing, rating, reviewing, and spending part of your week with us. We appreciate every single one of you.

This week, we cover a truly impressive range of topics because, as noted, we are *professional* now.

We start with Laurel's work badge reel, which somehow leads us right back into the never ending debate over Ouija boards and planchettes. Are they actually offensive, or have people simply become a little too quick to take offense at things they don't understand? We still don't have an answer, but we certainly have opinions.

Speaking of things that are constantly changing, Valerie's hair makes an appearance in the conversation, too. You genuinely never know what color you're going to get when she shows up, we've just accepted that this is part of the experience.

That conversation eventually turns into something a little more serious: curiosity. As kids, we're constantly told to ask questions, stay curious, and never stop learning. Then we become adults and suddenly there are plenty of situations where asking too many questions gets you a very different response: just listen, don't question it, and move along.

Then we're back with Part Two of our discussion about Lindsay Clancy. We talk about her defense attorney, why we think he's one of the best there is, and why we both remain convinced that Patrick was involved. The entire case is so bizarre, complicated, and disturbing that it's hard to imagine it ever fading from public memory. We have a feeling this is one of those cases people will be talking about for decades.

That opens the door to a much bigger conversation about the way society treats women, the double standards women deal with, and the very complicated discussion surrounding the so called "male loneliness epidemic." It's a conversation with a lot of layers.

Thankfully, we eventually give our brains a break and get into something considerably more fun… baby names. Valerie has been getting a ridiculous amount of entertainment from TikToker Thee Tori Cemone (@tori_cemone) and her series about horribly misspelled baby names, and honestly, she's fantastic. We highly recommend giving her a follow because some of these names are truly works of…something

Thank you so much for hanging out with us this week. If you liked the episode, please like, comment, subscribe, and leave a review wherever you listen.

This week, we made a last minute change of plans.

We had originally planned to cover the Nolan Wells case, but with new information continuing to emerge, we decided it deserves the time, research, and care necessary to tell the story responsibly. We'll be bringing you that episode soon.

Instead, this week we take a thoughtful look at the heartbreaking case of Lindsey Clancy. A case that has sparked conversations about postpartum mental health, accountability, family tragedy, and the complexities of public opinion. As always, we approach this subject with compassion for everyone affected while acknowledging that these conversations can be difficult.

On a much lighter note, Gromy makes another appearance (because apparently he's decided he's a permanent co-host now), and we're also excited to finally introduce you to our manager, Grey Gregg.

We are also…officially everywhere!

We're so excited to announce that Doom & Daisies is now live across all of our social media platforms!

Come hang out with us between episodes, see behind the scenes content, join the conversations, and keep up with everything we've got planned.

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Facebook: Doom & Daisies Podcast

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YouTube: @doomanddaisiespod

Our full video episodes will premiere every Saturday at 12:00PM, so if you've ever wanted to watch our reactions, questionable facial expressions, and the chaos that doesn't always make the audio edit…that's where you'll find it.

As always, thank you for listening, sharing, rating, reviewing, and spending part of your week with us. We appreciate every single one of you.

Resources & References:

Lindsey Clancy Case

● Boston Children's Hospital-Information on postpartum mental health

● Massachusetts General Hospital Center for Women's Mental Health

● Postpartum Support International (PSI)

● Official court documents and publicly available filings in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts

● Public statements released by the Clancy and Cioffi families

Mental Health Resources:

● Postpartum Support International: https://www.postpartum.net

● 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 (U.S. & Canada)

● National Maternal Mental Health Hotline (U.S.): 1-833-TLC-MAMA (1-833-852-6262)

● SAMHSA National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)

If you or someone you love is struggling with postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, postpartum psychosis, or any other mental health crisis, please know that help is available. You are not alone.

This week, Laurel and Valerie take center stage for a conversation about Broadway, the arts, and why creativity shouldn't be a luxury reserved for those who can afford it. They discuss the rising costs of theater, concerts, and artistic experiences, the barriers that keep so many people from participating, and why they believe the arts should be accessible to everyone and not just a privileged few.

The conversation turns personal as they reflect on the teachers, mentors, and adults who saw something in them long before they saw it in themselves. Those people watered seeds that had already been planted, encouraging creativity, curiosity, and a lifelong love of storytelling. Laurel and Valerie also reminisce about the very first Broadway shows they ever experienced and the lasting impact those moments had on their lives.

The episode also marks the beginning of an exciting new chapter for Doom & Daisies. Starting in August, they're diving headfirst into growing the podcast, with renewed focus on their social media, website, YouTube, TikTok, and connecting with listeners in new ways. Expect more behind the scenes content, more community interaction, and plenty of beautifully weird adventures along the way.

Finally, they prepare listeners for next week's episode covering the Nolan Wells case. Laurel and Valerie share their commitment to approaching the story with compassion, care, and respect. Rather than rushing to cover a trending topic, they're taking the time to research thoroughly, speak with others, and educate themselves so they can present the case thoughtfully and responsibly.

This week we have a VERY special guest: Valerie's cat, Gromy! He makes his official podcast debut! Keep an ear out for his tiny little chirp, you really don't want to miss it.

Trigger Warning: This episode includes a discussion about the death of baby birds. If you'd rather skip that part, you can jump from 15:00–21:00.

This week, we're catching up after Laurel's family visit. Her brother and his family came all the way from Colorado, and it was such a nice time together. We swap stories from their visit before getting into one of the sweetest (and saddest) moments of the week.

Laurel shares the story of finding two baby birds that had fallen from their nest and were being attacked by ants. She tried everything to help them, but sadly their injuries were too severe. She talks about how she gave them a gentle goodbye and by placing them in a little leaf boat, covering them with flowers, and sending them down a creek and giving them their final blessing. We like to think they ended up somewhere peaceful, surrounded by wildflowers.

Things lighten up a bit when Laurel tells Valerie about Point Nemo, something she learned about from her son…before that? She had no idea this place even existed. We get into all the wild facts about the most remote place on Earth and Laurel comes to what she feels is the only reasonable conclusion: it has to be an alien headquarters. Valerie is fully on board with Laurel…this time.

Then we head to Hollywood, where Valerie talks about taking the boys to see The Odyssey, why she loved it, and why she thinks it's definitely headed for awards season. That leads into a chat about all the movies we're excited for, including Laurel completely losing it over Practical Magic 2. If you've been listening for a while, you already know Practical Magic isn't just her favorite movie...it's basically her personality and the entire structure of her being.

As always, thanks so much for hanging out with us this week. If you liked the episode, please like, comment, subscribe, and leave a review wherever you listen.

We're barely keeping our heads above water over here this week as we talk about what it's been like drowning at work… and the plot twist none of us saw coming: Gregg is officially our new manager. Trust us. We are just as surprised as you are.

Then we head into one of the most controversial true crime cases of all time as we discuss the upcoming A&E Scott Peterson documentary. Scott was undeniably a terrible person, but does that automatically make him a murderer? We break down why this case still has people arguing more than 20 years later and share where we stand after revisiting the evidence.

As if that wasn't enough of a disagreement nightmare, we swoon over the internet's favorite oversized troublemaker, Neil the Seal, and explain why he's become the serotonin boost Laurel and Valerie never knew they needed. We also somehow bring up The Lost Boys musical again???

We are also THRILLED to announce that the sound is finally fixed!

We hope you all had a great week and we are SO glad you're here.

Don't forget to rate, like, and subscribe! We appreciate it more than you could know.

Listener Note: This episode includes discussion of alleged sexual assault and the justice system, which may be difficult for some listeners. Please take care while listening.

Happy post Fourth of July!

Laurel finally has an office…with an echo. We PROMISE we will remedy that ASAP. We are all just works in progress, remember? Be patient with us. We are old.

Some key points to this week's episode include:

The NHL Controversy

We discuss the 2018 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships assault which involves five NHL drafted players who were accused of sexually assaulting a woman. We discuss the court's decision, public reaction to the judge's ruling, and why many people are questioning how some of those players are still being drafted and signed by professional teams. We also talk about believing survivors, accountability, and how these cases continue to shape public trust in the justice system.

Our Fourth of July Weekend

Not every holiday story ends with fireworks. Laurel shares how what started as a relaxing Fourth of July almost turned into a neighborhood disaster when a fire broke out nearby and how her son spotted it in time for everyone to respond before it spread.

CERN: Science or Something More?

Oh yes! A conspiracy! We explore what CERN actually is, why it's one of the most misunderstood scientific facilities in the world, the internet theories surrounding particle collisions, alternate dimensions, the Mandela Effect, strange symbolism, and why Laurel believes there's much more happening than what we're being told.

Whether you're here for true crime, strange mysteries, conspiracy theories, or just two friends having a conversation...we've got you covered.

Support for Survivors:

If you or someone you know has experienced sexual assault, please know that you are not alone. Help is available, and you deserve to be heard and supported.

• RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) – The nation's largest organization supporting survivors of sexual violence. Their confidential hotline and online chat are available 24/7.

• National Sexual Assault Hotline: 800-656-HOPE (4673)

• Online Chat: Visit www.rainn.org and click "Chat" to speak confidentially with a trained support specialist.

• If you are in immediate danger or have a medical emergency, call 911 or go to your nearest emergency department.

Whether the assault happened recently or years ago, your experience matters, and support is available whenever you're ready.

Follow us on social media and leave a review if you enjoy the show. If you don't enjoy it, just keep that to yourself, it costs nothing to be nice. Greg is watching.

Resources: CERN sacrifice video can be seen here

This week, we're talking about a little bit of everything, because, honestly, that's kind of our brand.

How do YOU listen to music? Are you loyal to Spotify, Apple Music, or Pandora, or are you one of those people who's built an impressive vinyl collection? We chat about what makes vinyl so special, why people love collecting it, and whether it's worth the hype. Along the way, Valerie somehow ends up remembering her joyous time wearing every color imaginable, in the form of a cupcake dress…to Laurel's wedding.

Then, obviously, we tackle one of the most important questions to come out of the emo era: Vans or Converse? We may not solve the debate, but we definitely have opinions.

⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of infant death and pregnancy-related topics.

In the second half of the episode, we discuss the heartbreaking case involving the infant found at Electric Forest. We go through the timeline, what investigators have shared publicly so far, and the questions that still don't have answers. If you'd rather skip this portion of the episode, you can jump from approximately 27:00 to 41:00.

Then we dive into the future of Doctor Who. With the latest regeneration leaving fans with more questions than answers, we talk about where the series could go from here, whether another network might pick it up, or if this really could be the end of the Doctor's story.

Thanks for hanging out with us this week. We appreciate every listen, every share, every like/comment, and every one of you who's along for the ride.

Resources for Pregnancy, Pregnancy Loss, Postpartum, and Parenting Support

If you or someone you know is struggling during pregnancy, after pregnancy, or after experiencing pregnancy loss, you don't have to go through it alone. Here are a few organizations that can help:

• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline-Call or text 988 anytime for immediate mental health support.

• Postpartum Support International (PSI)-Call or text 1-800-944-4773 (English), text 503-894-9453, or visit postpartum.net for support with postpartum depression, anxiety, OCD, and other perinatal mental health concerns.

• Planned Parenthood-Offers pregnancy testing, options counseling, prenatal referrals, abortion services where legal, birth control, STI testing, and other reproductive health care.

• All-Options Talkline-1-888-493-0092. A confidential, judgment-free place to talk through pregnancy, parenting, abortion, adoption, infertility, or pregnancy loss.

• March of Dimes-Resources and education for healthy pregnancies, new parents, and families.

• Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline-Call or text 1-800-422-4453 if you're concerned about the safety or well-being of a child.

No matter what you're going through, there are people who care, people who will listen, and people who want to help.

This week on Doom & Daisies, we're pulling back the curtain a little.

Starting a podcast has been one of the most exciting things we've ever done, but it has also come with its fair share of anxiety, self-doubt, stress, and wondering if we're doing any of this right. This episode is an honest conversation about what mental health really looks like behind the scenes as Valerie and Laurel open up about work, everyday pressures, and the invisible battles so many of us carry.

Of course, we couldn't stay serious the entire time. We chat about Valerie's cat, Gromy, Laurel's lovable chaos goblin of a dog, Shady, the sweet bond Valerie's oldest kid has with Laurel, and the equally special relationship between Laurel's son and Valerie. We also somehow end up discussing the '90s country ballads that could literally raise Laurel from the grave, the mysterious unknown mob boss who apparently plans to attend Valerie's funeral, and Laurel's personal nightmare coming true: 160,000 Morgan Wallen fans suddenly descending into her tiny hometown.

It's heartfelt, ridiculous, emotional, and somehow exactly what we needed.

If today's conversation resonated with you, please remember that you never have to struggle alone.

Resources:

988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 any time in the U.S. if you or someone you know is experiencing a mental health crisis. You can also chat online at https://988lifeline.org/chat/⁠�.

The Trevor Project: LGBTQ+ young people can call 1-866-488-7386, text START to 678678, or visit thetrevorproject.org to connect with a trained crisis counselor.

Veterans Crisis Line: Veterans, service members, National Guard, Reserve members, and their loved ones can call 988 and press 1, text 838255, or visit veteranscrisisline.net for confidential support.

No matter what you're carrying today, we're glad you're here.

Come chase answers with us this week as we talk about Noah Kahan and Bonnaroo, not just the lyrics that seem to put words to feelings we didn't know how to explain, but what it was like hearing those songs in the middle of the festival itself. Noah brought those stories to life on the Bonnaroo stage, and we explore how music becomes something bigger when it's shared among thousands of people. Through the rain, the mud, and the moments when plans fell apart, Bonnaroo became the perfect backdrop for the kind of connection Noah's music captures so well.

Then we dig deeper into the festival experience, where connection showed up in unexpected ways. Through the storms, the soaked clothes, and the endless mud, we witnessed the kind of human moments that stay with you long after the music ends, including the bond between Valerie and her daughter, and the reminder that sometimes the most meaningful part of a festival isn't the performance on stage but the people standing beside you. What is it about live music that makes strangers feel like family and families feel even closer?

And finally, we take a sharp turn into one of the internet's favorite rabbit holes: the mysterious man who allegedly crashed the White House Correspondents' Dinner claiming to be a time traveler sent to stop a future catastrophe. Was it an elaborate hoax, a misunderstood story, or just another example of our collective fascination with the impossible?

As different as these stories seem, they all lead back to the same question: Why are humans so desperate to know what comes next? Whether we're finding ourselves in a Noah Kahan song while standing ankle deep in Bonnaroo mud, holding onto the people we love through the chaos, or imagining what the future holds, uncertainty can be uncomfortable. The unknown scares us…but it also drives us. If someone offered you a guaranteed trip through time, would you take it? Or is the mystery of not knowing what makes life worth living in the first place?

Grab your flower crowns and your conspiracy boards…this is Doom & Daisies.