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Cira Riedel, Gründerin von Greenroom Voice, berät Outdoor-Marken zu Nachhaltigkeits-Themen und hat auch einen Podcast zu dem Thema. Mit ihr kann ich also über den Elefanten reden, der auf unseren Surftrips immer mit im Raum ist: Den Widerspruch zwischen dem Ruf des Surfens und der Realität von dessen Industrie. Selbst wenn wir nur privat diesem Natursport fröhnen, können wir es kaum vermeiden, dabei Spuren zu hinterlassen - vom Material, das wir nutzen, bis zum Transport, den wir wählen. Wie gehen wir mit diesem Dilemma um? Cira hat da ein paar überraschend pragmatische Tipps.

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Cira Riedel, founder of Greenroom Voice, advises outdoor brands on sustainability issues and also hosts a podcast on this matter. So I can talk to her about the elephant in the room that’s always there on our surf trips: The contradiction between the appeal of surfing and the reality of the industry. Even if we are just enjoying a nature-based sport for ourselves, we can hardly avoid leaving a footprint—from the gear we use to the transportation we choose. How do we deal with this dilemma? Cira has a few surprisingly pragmatic tips.

Lee-Ann Curren is a European surf champion, a French-American musician and so much more...

While sitting in my campervan on a busy street in Biarritz, Lee-Ann told me a bit about the chance and burden of being born in a family of surf legends, what it is like to be openly gay as a pro surfer and how surfing can become part of the performing arts.

In order to reach a broader audience, we recorded this podcast in English - which felt funny, because we normally speak French when we meet. She was part of my arte documentary CHICKS ON BOARDS, together with her aunt Christine.

Lee-Ann spoke softly and thoughtfully, which may have had something to do with the change in language, but also with the calmness and modesty she exudes.

I am sure we'll meet again for another podcast recording, la prochaine fois in French!

Together with her partner Chris, surfer and filmmaker Demi brought the LONDON SURF/FILMFESTIVAL to live. When they go surfing in the cold waters of Cornwall, they put on natural rubber - because neoprene is the villain of the surf industry, as we learn in their documentary THE BIG SEA. In this podcast, I am meeting Demi in the green room of the riverside studios where their festival takes place - and where I just received a prize for my short film GOOD MORNING GAZA.

Aloha and welcome to Dörthy Talk! Please allow me to quickly introduce this podcast and myself to you before we get started.

Following CHICKS ON BOARDS and THE NEXT WAVE IS YOURS, Berlin based director, host, and author Dörthe Eickelberg returns to her greatest passion—surfing—in DÖRTHY TALK. On her road trips, Dörthe meets female surfers who have something to say. But of course, male surfers get a chance to speak as well. Feminism only works together! From spot checks to ocean conservation, from localism to inclusion: the conversations don’t just ripple by, but go deep.

DÖRTHY TALK is a multilingual podcast about surfing, culture, science and community. Episodes are released in English and German, with occasional conversations in other languages. Because surfing is a global movement - the waves know no boarders.