"Wump - There It Is" is Dosho's talk for Sunday Open Zen on January 14, 2018. The talk explores the teaching of one of our Rinzai ancestors, Hakuin, and his Complete Poison Blossoms in a Thicket of Thorns, #47, including our emphasis on kensho and the practice of the mokugyo (fish drum). The place of vital importance that is completely untouched by either before or after? What is it?