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January 19, 2022 Piety and Theology: A Schleiermacher Discussion with Daniel Pedersen
Dr. Daniel Pedersen joins us for a discussion on the 19th century German Reformed theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher. Schleiermacher is often called the 'Father of Modern Theology' or the 'Father of Liberal Theology'. Daniel explains what that term means and how he believes that term can mislead. Daniel takes a position that Schleiermacher is often misread and misinterpreted, and he sees Schleiermacher as more in line with the Great Tradition (and an important interlocutor in the Reformed Tradition). Daniel and Andrew also discuss some of the basic ideas of Schleiermacher as laid forth in his chief theological works On Religion: Speeches to Its Cultured Despisers and The Christian Faith.

Daniel is a Research Fellow at the the University of Aberdeen. His interests run the gamut of modern theology and Protestant theology, from the Reformers to the 19th century and beyond. He earned his Ph.D. at Princeton where he studied under Bruce McCormack. He is the author of several books and articles on Friedrich Schleiermacher.
Daniel's latest book Schleiermacher's Theology of Sin and Nature: Agency, Value, and Modern Theology is available here.
Daniel's article that we discussed on the Divine Attributes that argues for a strong continuity from the Reformed scholastics to Schleiermacher is "Schleiermacher and the Reformed Scholastics" from The International Journal of Systematic Theology 17: 413-431
Daniel's post "How to Understand Schleiermacher's Theology- A guest post by Daniel Pedersen"
(He advances his thesis further in an upcoming article for International Journal of Systematic Theology titled "‘A tragic destiny overtook him': Misunderstanding the Introduction to Schleiermacher’s The Christian Faith and his Letters to Lücke’")
Andrew discussed Gerhard Ebeling's comparison of Luther and Schleiermacher from Internationaler Schleiermacher Kongreß Berlin 1984. Link to electronic copy of the book.
The Terrence Tice book discussed in the episode is Schleiermacher: Abingdon Pillars of Theology Series.
*For further reading from Daniel's colleague and Schleiermacher authority Paul Nimmo, we recommend his article "Schleiermacher on Scripture and the Work of Jesus Christ" in Modern Theology

1 hr 5 min
January 14, 2022 A Man Made the Promise, and a Man Keeps the Promise
Rev. Andrew's good friend Rev. Charles Lehmann, Lutheran pastor and classmate at Institute of Lutheran Theology, comes on the show for the first time to discuss the Communicatio Idiomatum; how Jesus’s human nature and divine nature are related which has been understood differently between the Lutheran and the Reformed traditions. We had a lot of fun. Charles will frequently appear on Doth Protest Too Much (so get used to him! :) )
*The debate between Jakob Andrae and Theodore Beza that is referred to in this episode is Colloquy of Montbéliard.
*The reference to Jesus's "divine spittle" from Athanasius of Alexandria is from his Discourse against the Arians.
*The episode title is Charles's paraphrase of Martin Chemnitz's teaching from his work The Two Natures of Christ, p. 449.
56 min
December 28, 2021 End of Construction- Thank you for your patience
Merry Christmas! In this episode, Stephen and Rev. Andrew each share three podcasts that they have been recently enjoying and would recommend to Doth Protest Too Much fans. These other podcasts range from topics of the paranormal to stand-up comedy to relational/emotional wellness to cancel culture to church leadership-gone-wrong to modern theology. Also, we conclude our discussion on Billy Graham that we started in a previous episode titled "A Prayer Complete". Rev. Andrew shares a little bit about the Billy Graham book Angels: God's Secret Agents. Stephen and Rev. Andrew also each share about their experience visiting the Billy Graham Library.
**Correction: We don't want to spoil the other podcasts we talk about in the show notes, but it is Delony, (not Mulaney- who is also a real guy)..
1 hr 29 min
November 23, 2021 The Already and the Not Yet: A Discussion with Dr. Thomas Power on Apocalyptic Thought in 19th Century Irish Anglicanism
Dr. Thomas Power joins the podcast to discuss his longtime interests and work in apocalyptic thought in church history- especially in regard to the Church of Ireland in the 19th century. Tune in to learn about how multiple societal and political factors led to an apocalyptic fervor and revival of millennialist thought in the church- in ways that we still see today.
Dr. Power is Professor Emeritus of Church History at Wycliffe College. He received his Ph.D. from Trinity College in Dublin. His areas of expertise include Christian history in Britain and Ireland particularly in the history of millennialism. He has authored and edited several books and publications including the forthcoming 1825: Apocalypse in Ireland (working title) and the 2019 book Trauma and Survival In The Contemporary Church: Historical Responses in The Anglican Tradition that he contributed to and edited which we discuss content from in this episode.

Check more of Dr. Power's publications out on this link: https://www.wycliffecollege.ca/users/thomas-power
This is a link to the commentary Revelation and the End of All Things by Craig Koester that Dr. Power mentioned and enjoyed:
https://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7578/revelation-and-the-end-of-all-things-2nd-ed.aspx
58 min
November 15, 2021 God- More Than Necessary: A Tribute to Eberhard Jüngel
(Your host enjoys using the umlaut function for this episode!) Who is Eberhard Jüngel? Dr. Dave Nelson joins the podcast to discuss a significant and interesting 20th-century German theologian who is sometimes overlooked in the 'Anglosphere'. Tune in to this episode learn more about Jüngel, his commentary on secularization, his relationship to the theologies of Karl Barth and Rudolf Bultmann, and the 'New Hermeneutic' (or New Quest for the Historical Jesus), as well as Jüngel's ecumenical work and revolt against (and later endorsement of!) JDDJ (the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification between the Roman Catholic Church and the Lutheran World Federation). This was fascinating stuff!
Dr. David Nelson received his Ph.D. from Aberdeen University where he studied under John Webster. Dr. Nelson is the Senior Acquisitions Editor for Baker Academic and Brazos Press, and editor for Lutheran Forum, USA. As of 2022, Dr. Nelson is the Director of Baylor University Press. He has authored, edited, and contributed to several books including Jüngel: A Guide to the Perplexed and The Interruptive Word: Eberhard Jüngel on the Sacramental Structure of God's Relation to the World. Dr. Nelson also taught courses at the Institute of Lutheran Theology, where your host Rev. Andrew studies at.

1 hr 13 min
November 10, 2021 Natural Theology (Replay)
This is a re-upload of our second episode, Rev. Andrew Christiansen discusses natural theology and its sub-topic of natural law. We cover many years and many figures in this episode: Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Richard Hooker and more! There is no guest tonight, we just had some free time and some paid for podcast hours... so enjoy!

For further reading on your own, we briefly referred to some excellent writings by scholars in this episode:
*Jaroslav Pelikan's book Christianity and Classical Culture
*Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica
*D.A. Degnan's article "Two Models of Positive Law in Aquinas" from the Thomist journal
*Siegbert Becker's book The Foolishness of God
*Gifford Grobien's article "What is Natural Law? Medieval Foundations and Luther's Appropriation" as found in the book Natural Law: A Lutheran Reappraisal
*Torrance Kirby's chapter on natural law from the Cambridge Companion to Richard Hooker
*David VanDrunen's excellent book Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms: A Study in the Development of Reformed Social Thought.

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1 hr 15 min
October 27, 2021 Evangelism is for Me: Reflections on the EFAC-USA Conference
Evangelism starts with what Christ has done (and is doing) for you that you cannot do for yourself. This was the insight (though not original- it's biblical) that Rev. Andrew came to upon his reflection of the fantastic recent EFAC-USA conference in Dallas, TX. EFAC stands for Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communion. The theme of the conference was "Evangelism: Testifying to the Gospel of the Grace of God." Visit their website at efac-usa.org
54 min
October 26, 2021 ”Those Dry-Scholastics” (with Jack Kilcrease)
This is a replay of our very first episode. Join Rev. Andrew and Dr. Jack Kilcrease for a discussion on Thomas Aquinas' influence on Protestantism, in particular the era of theology known as "Protestant scholasticism" or "Protestant orthodoxy". Dr. Kilcrease clarifies some misconceptions about Protestant scholasticism and also offers a way that we can appreciate the theologians of that era.
Dr. Kilcrease is a Lutheran lay theologian and currently a member of Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod’s Commission on Theology and Church Relations. He earned his PhD in Systematic Theology and Ethics from Marquette University in 2009. He is the author of several books and many articles. He is an Associate Professor of Historical and Systematic Theology at the Institute of Lutheran Theology- an independent seminary and graduate school where yours truly studies at. If you are interested in reading further work from Dr. Kilcrease, I encourage you to check out his website www.jackkilcrease.com where you can find links to past articles, radio shows and podcasts he has appeared on there as well as read from his blog.

1 hr 5 min
October 21, 2021 Apocalypse Soon: Martin Luther and the Book of Revelation
Martin Luther? The Book of Revelation? How could this episode NOT be good? Tune in to explore not only Luther's relationship to a book that has long fascinated people, but the development of the apocalyptic tenor to Luther's thought and the shift of attitude that he had toward this book.
Shownotes:
*The works from Luther referred to in the episode can be found in volumes 2, 9, 13, 35, 44, 54 of Luther's Works.
*The commentary on Revelation by Richard Bauckham I referred to is The Theology of the Book of Revelation (New York: Cambridge University Press, 1993)
*The works from Scott H. Hendrix referred to are his article “Luther Against the Backdrop of the History of Biblical Interpretation”, from the journal Interpretation volume 37 (1983)and his book Luther and the Papacy: Stages in a Reformation Conflict. Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1981.
*The quote from Oswald Bayer on Luther's increasing apocalyptic outlooks is from page 332 of Martin Luther’s Theology: A Contemporary Interpretation. Translated by Thomas H. Trapp. Grand Rapids, MI/Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2008.
*The quote from Heinrich Bornkhamm on Luther's New Testament prefaces comes from page 83 of his book Luther in Mid-Career. Translated by E. Theodore Bachmann. Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1983.
*The description of "Historicism" offered by Timothy P. Weber comes from page 366 of the The Oxford Handbook of Eschatology. (Oxford University Press, 2008).
*The Revelation commentary we referred to by Robert Mounce is The Book of Revelation (The New International Commentary on the New Testament), Revised Edition. Grand Rapids, MI/Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1998.
*The quote from E. Randolph Daniel on Joachim of Fiore is from page 78 of the book The Apocalypse in the Middle Ages.(Ithaca and London: Cornell University Press, 1992)
*The quote from Philip D.W. Krey is from the book The Last Things: Biblical and Theological Perspectives on Eschatology. Grand Rapids, MI/Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2002.
*The quote on the nuance in Luther's use allegory from Erik Herrmann comes from his dissertation “’Why the Law?’ Salvation History and the Law in Martin Luther’s Interpretation of Galatians 1513-1522”, Concordia Seminary, St. Louis
*Some of the general information on Luther's attitude toward the Ottoman-Turkish empire comes from Adam Francisco's book Martin Luther and Islam: A Study in Sixteenth-Century Polemics and Apologetics (Brill, 2007).
1 hr 7 min
October 06, 2021 ”Blood with the Pope” or ”Wine with the Enthusiasts”? The Luther vs. Zwingli Debate
Dr. Jack Kilcrease joins us again on Doth Protest Too Much! What a fascinating conversation we had on the theological (and Christological) differences between Reformers Martin Luther and Ulrich Zwingli, especially in regard to the Holy Eucharist. Jack also weighs in on what he liked about the Netflix series Midnight Mass.

Dr. Kilcrease is a Lutheran lay theologian and currently a member of Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod’s Commission on Theology and Church Relations. He earned his PhD in Systematic Theology and Ethics from Marquette University in 2009. He is the author of several books and many articles. He is an Associate Professor of Historical and Systematic Theology at the Institute of Lutheran Theology- an independent seminary and graduate school where yours truly studies at. If you are interested in reading further work from Dr. Kilcrease, I encourage you to check out his website www.jackkilcrease.com
You can find links to past articles, radio shows and podcasts he has appeared on there as well as read from his blog.

*The interview on 'Spirit Christology' that was referred to in this episode with Dr. Leopoldo Sánchez can be listened to here: https://onscript.study/podcast/leopoldo-sanchez-sculptor-spirit/

*Also: John Mason Neale is the Oxford Movement hymn writer that Rev. Andrew could not think of in the moment who was drawn toward Eastern Orthodoxy
1 hr 1 min

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