Rafal Los is the Principal owner of Rabbit Seventy7 and host of the "Down The Security Rabbit Hole" Podcast. What makes Rafal unique is his length of time as a cloud security expert, but also his nearly 9-year career in podcasting.

We discuss:

• The everchanging need for enterprise cloud security
• How small organizations are facing a do or die moment with their IT security
• Why formal education is not important during the hiring process

We also discuss Rafals podcast which is set to release its 400th episode

Connect with Rafal: linkedin.com/in/rmlos

Connect with Steve: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steveleclair/

Embracing Uncertainty Links: https://linktr.ee/embracinguncertainty