Downshift With Tonnika

Downshift With Tonnika

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  • [Special Audio Only Episode] Leadership vs. Management: The Truth Nobody Told You | Michael Smith - Episode 9

    Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO

    Anybody can run a shop. Building one that lasts? That's a whole different story. If you're ready to build smarter systems and a better experience for your team and customers, check out Tekmetric HERE


    In this episode, Tonnika welcomes Michael Smith of The Institute for Automotive Business Excellence to talk about what it really takes to build a high-performing, people-first shop. Michael explains why genuine motivation can't be created by bonuses or external pressure—real motivation has to come from within. Tonnika brings up what she's learned about the differences between micromanagement and true leadership, opening up about the importance of self-awareness and the hard work of personal growth.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Why Real Motivation Comes from Within
    02:20 – What’s Your Shop Actually Worth? Legacy, Acquisitions & Selling
    05:08 – Why Shop Owners HATE Talking About the Big Picture
    07:37 – Leadership vs. Management: The Truth Nobody Told You
    10:06 – Facing Your Shadows: How Self-Awareness Changes Everything
    13:00 – Not Just Cars: Building a People-First Shop
    16:11 – Reverse Engineering Legacy: Starting with the End in Mind
    18:55 – Planning Your Future vs. Living Day to Day
    22:11 – The Secret Sauce of High-Performance Teams
    23:44 – Motivation, Bonuses & What Really Drives Great Work
    25:48 – The Power of Recognition vs. More Money
    29:12 – Breaking Through Old Industry Mindsets
    34:03 – Developing People First for Real Business Results
    37:18 – Little Things You Can Do Now (That Change Everything)
    42:00 – Resilience, Grit & The End of Imposter Syndrome
    46:43 – The Science of Growth: Transcendence & Asking Bigger Questions
    49:23 – Growth Means Getting Uncomfortable (And Why You Should Try)
    55:10 – How to Break Your Own Ceilings & Why It’s So Worth It
    59:48 – Recap: The Real Meaning of Leadership in Your Shop

    1 hr 2 min
  • Women Are Impacting Auto Repair! | Coralee Zueff - Episode 8

    Consistency is key - heard that! But, consistency is HARD. That's why I gave up on trying and let the experts handle it. Detect Auto. Let them clean up your estimating process and raise your ARO - like they did for me! CLICK HERE TO BOOK A DEMO

    Anybody can run a shop. Building one that lasts? That's a whole different story. If you're ready to build smarter systems and a better experience for your team and customers, check out Tekmetric HERE


    In this episode, Coralee Zueff joins Tonnika Haynes and Ash Kaplan to share her journey in the automotive industry, reflecting on how her passion for racing and cars led her from technician to acclaimed author and trainer. Their conversation highlights the importance of building genuine customer relationships at the service counter, with Tonnika and Ash emphasizing how personal connection and communication drive trust and success far beyond KPIs.

    Find more about Coralee's book here

    00:00 – Why it’s RARE for everything to run perfectly in the shop
    01:00 – North Carolina cold vs. Canadian “lost snow”
    03:02 – Meet Coralee: 24 years in the automotive game
    04:13 – From car enthusiast teen to Red Seal technician
    07:03 – Writing the next resource for women in the trades
    08:22 – Why stories matter for the next generation of women
    10:07 – The power of mentorship and finding your “Automotive Auntie”
    12:21 – Advice for your younger self: embrace the winding road
    14:00 – Passion for hands-on work and leadership lessons from water parks
    16:00 – The reality and value of remote estimating
    17:36 – Building powerhouse teams: train from scratch or hire experience?
    19:27 – How service advisors from all backgrounds are raising the bar
    21:32 – Training tips: one successful thing at a time
    23:09 – Canadian in Texas: adventures at the Texas Two Step
    28:36 – Finding community as a woman in a male-dominated industry
    33:22 – No makeup, no judgment: the power of women’s retreats
    35:36 – Autocross, drifting, and motorcycles—track life confessions
    39:41 – Shop race cars and the benefits of getting employees out racing
    40:13 – All-girls high school racing teams and changing the pipeline
    41:43 – Will AI take our jobs? Not if people still need people
    44:11 – How spending just 15 more minutes with each customer pays off
    46:33 – Frontline service tips: name recognition and building trust
    49:01 – Why the best advisors might be bartenders
    51:21 – Setting expectations: the art of handling upset customers
    54:03 – Downshift: Slow down for more meaningful growth
    55:10 – Coralee on learning to say NO – and loving it
    58:03 – Take an extra day, enjoy the journey
    59:09 – Where to find Coralee’s books and training

    1 hr 3 min
  • Before I Was the Boss Lady, I Was His Little Girl | William Brown and Ash Kaplan - Episode 7

    Today, we welcome the man who started it all....William Brown, my daddio. It took some convincing to get him to open up, but I just HAD to let you meet him! Together with Ash Kaplan, we talk about how my dad didn't just build a shop, but and a legacy. He shares hard-earned wisdom from decades in the business, including how sacrifice and a refusal to quit paved the way for long-term success.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Pricing for Profitability: Why YOUR benchmarks matter
    01:22 The Brown Effect: William Browns shop owner origin story
    05:10 From $3,000 Loans to $1.8 Million Shops—The Long Game
    07:35 Childhood Lessons Learned in the Shop
    09:02 “Excuses ain’t nothing but a made up lie”—Quitting in the Dip
    12:17 Making Hard Financial Choices (Do you need the Escalade?)
    16:28 When Is It OK to Treat Yourself? Dad’s Rules on Wealth
    18:57 Six Months in the Bank: Protecting Team and Family
    20:53 Work-Life “Balance”—What it Really Takes
    24:00 If Your Labor Rate Isn’t THEIR Business—Why Benchmarks are Personal
    28:38 “Pass the Baton”: Building Teams, Letting Go, and Growth
    37:40 Leadership vs. Boss: Why Pouring Into Your People Matters
    42:50 Firing, Hiring, and Being Held Hostage in Your Own Business
    47:10 When You Outgrow Your Shop (and Why that’s a Win!)
    56:25 Would You Do It Again? 

    58 min
  • Screw the Customer - Happy Workers Are More Important | Becky Witt - Episode 6

    In this episode, Becky Witt joins Tonnika and Ash to say that having happy workers is the foundation for customer satisfaction. Becky also shares how a shift to annual maintenance and eliminating waiters doubled her average repair order, and drives home the importance of transparent pricing—encouraging shop owners not to discount out of emotion.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Why “The customer is always right” is poppycock
    01:06 Meet Becky Witt: Childhood car obsession to shop owner
    05:25 From gas stations to Honda and back again
    07:32 Climbing the dealership ladder & national recognition
    09:47 Outgrowing stalls: The low-overhead secret
    13:19 Specializing in Honda: Lessons from the product cheapening department
    15:42 Luxury vs. lunch-bucket customers: Discovering your ideal clientele
    17:21 Changing shop management for good: Consulting stories
    20:00 What motivates techs (and how to find your own unicorn)
    22:07 Why most shop owners have it backwards about business
    25:11 Learning to get out of your own way as a leader
    27:13 The $47,000 mistake: Wasted time every morning
    30:06 Why you must always be open to new coaching and training
    32:00 Becky’s donut stories—Making lessons unforgettable
    34:16 Why she refuses to charge for her wisdom (and why that matters!)
    38:31 Teaching the whole shop: How real change sticks
    41:03 Real talk: Pricing from your own pocket hurts everyone
    43:02 Clients, customers, and people with broken cars—who you REALLY want
    46:00 Why shop loyalty starts with saying NO to the wrong jobs
    48:28 How Becky pioneered wait-oil changes (and why she stopped!)
    51:00 The annual maintenance model that doubled profits
    54:01 Ditching rides for loaner cars—cutting costs, leveling up service
    56:05 The #1 thing every new shop owner must do
    58:20 Why your team’s happiness is everything
    01:00:13 Why Becky won’t ever do “waiters” again
    01:03:02 Life after live training: Becky's biker adventures
    01:06:01 Advice for living your best (motorcycle-filled) life

    1 hr 11 min
  • How to Build Your Personal Brand | Lola Schmidt and Kim Walker - Episode 5

    In this episode, Tonnika Haynes is joined by Lola Schmidt and Kim Walker for a candid conversation about navigating business ownership, brand authenticity, and the importance of community engagement. Kim shares her journey from education to entrepreneurship, underscoring the value of finding your footing and staying true to your strengths. Lola offers practical branding advice, encouraging listeners to keep things simple and consistent while remaining authentic. Both guests agree that for struggling shops, the most effective—and often free—marketing begins with networking and showing up in your local community.

    Timestamps: 
    00:00 "Kim's Spider Story"

    03:44 "Gym Encounter Shocks and Spreads"

    07:06 "Ready for Montana Cold"

    13:28 Women's Role in Business Support

    14:44 "Know Yourself, Your Partner, Boundaries"

    18:15 "Timing and Communication Challenges"

    24:03 "Queen of Genuine Kindness"

    26:44 "Discovering Identity and Natural Gifts"

    30:50 "Learning Boundaries and Saying No"

    32:06 "Expo Overwhelm and Recognition"

    35:05 "Fostering Connection Among Women"

    39:41 "Downshift to Gain Power"

    43:57 "Lessons on Million-Dollar Success"

    44:43 "Tracking Numbers Painfully Essential"

    49:10 "Brian Always Figures It Out"

    54:58 "Marketing Tips for Struggling Shops"

    57:32 "Challenging Assumptions About Representation"

    59:28 "Kids, Pajamas, and Montana Plans"

    1 hr 1 min
  • Lower Car Count = More Money?? | Rick White - Episode 4

    In this episode, Tonnika has on Rick White, president of 180 Biz. Rick explains why the best shop owners know when to slow down and reassess, not just push harder, and shares lessons on business leadership and the importance of being coachable. Tonnika opens up about her own journey letting go of micromanagement and learning to value her team.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Why discounts hurt more than you think (the “Disney World” account)
    02:04 – The real story behind “downshifting” and slowing down to speed up
    03:19 – Shop owner myths: Free time and business ownership realities
    06:20 – Social media vs. reality: What new shop owners miss
    08:01 – Coaching, DiSC personalities, and being (un)coachable
    10:07 – Rick’s intake process: When do you “fire” a coaching client?
    12:25 – Absentee ownership myth & staying connected to the shop
    17:06 – Growing leaders and letting go—real talk for micromanagers
    19:18 – “Embrace the suck”: Why bad weeks make you better
    22:00 – The Disney World savings hack: Stop robbing your kids!
    23:52 – The high cost of devaluing yourself
    26:55 – Making the numbers work: From $100 ARO to $850+
    29:12 – Responding to “You’re too expensive”—the mindset shift
    36:09 – Profit, not just sales: The truth about hitting $1 million
    42:00 – Working with family: Guardrails with kids in the shop
    47:09 – Learning to ask for (and receive) help
    49:13 – Rick’s Just One Thing: Value yourself, be a lifelong learner, and make an impact

    52 min
  • Overcome Your Fears and Be YOU!! | Episode 3

    In this episode, Tonnika Haynes welcomes Ash Kaplan to talk about the realities of shop ownership and building a business with authenticity. Tonnika Haynes shares her journey taking over her family’s automotive shop, highlighting the challenges of stepping into leadership and learning to trust her team. Ash details her path from tinkering as a kid to founding Golden Hour Garage, emphasizing the importance of meaningful connections, empowering shop owners to reclaim their time, and why authenticity is her #1 core value.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Authority, legacy, and what it really means to be in control
    00:28 Welcome & the power of “downshifting” in business
    01:22 Meet Tonnika & Ash: Shop owner & efficiency expert introductions
    02:19 Family, motherhood, and how your “why” changes with time
    04:20 “Working on, not in the business”—the struggle to delegate
    06:01 How an industry call led to a friendship—and better business
    07:16 Generational divides & why standing out matters in shop life
    11:14 Why Tonnika thought she needed “the old white guy up front” & learning to lead as herself
    13:04 The moment walking into an industry event changed everything
    17:33 The story behind “Downshift”—slowing down to level up
    18:25 Relationships first: Building trust and brand beyond company names
    21:06 Investing in people: How remote services help reclaim time & sanity
    24:33 The health scare that became a wake-up call for better business balance
    27:33 Letting go, trusting the team, and why delegation pays twice
    29:13 The magic of remote estimating: More customer time, more profit
    30:58 Selling with empathy, not assumptions—the secret to loyal customers
    33:40 How serving people first changes everything
    44:06 Ash’s journey from duct tape diva to shop problem-solver
    53:00 The grit it takes: Advice for women entering the industry
    01:04:42 Tonnika turns a struggling shop into a legacy of growth
    01:16:34 Why shop culture means everything—and how to actually build it
    01:22:04 Owning your story, embracing authenticity, and letting your “why” shine

    1 hr 30 min
  • Why Technicians and Advisors Don't Work Well Together and What Should Change | Jeff Compton - Episode 2

    In this episode, Tonnika Haynes and Ash Kaplan welcome Jeff Compton from The Jaded Mechanic Podcast. Jeff Compton shares his frustration with old, ineffective shop practices and highlights the need for better advisor training. Ash Kaplan emphasizes the importance of mutual respect and technical understanding between the front and back of the shop, arguing that process—and not just technology—drives real improvement. Together, they discuss the impact of emotional discounting, why shops must prioritize ongoing training for both advisors and techs, and how communication gaps are still holding the industry back.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 – Why calling the customer just once is lazy and outdated
    [00:20] – Welcome to Downshift! The power of slowing down to speed up
    [01:13] – Role reversal: Jeff Compton in the hot seat
    [02:48] – Why only 5–10% are driving innovation in the industry
    [03:15] – Reaching the “other 90%” and shaking things up
    [04:10] – Stuck vs. Choosing: Are shops really “stuck” in old ways?
    [06:25] – Emotional discounting and the problem with low estimates
    [07:21] – The owner is often the problem—leadership and accountability
    [08:07] – When mistakes happen: Liability, tech pressure, and distractions
    [10:36] – Fixing communication: Front vs. Back of the shop
    [12:11] – Why technical training matters for service advisors
    [13:10] – The “family at the front counter” dilemma
    [17:00] – Coaching, training, and addressing resistance to change
    [18:12] – Why every shop needs advisor training—NOW
    [20:06] – Stories of change: When bringing in the spouse works
    [22:06] – The value of slowing car count to improve process
    [23:24] – Podcasts as an affordable coach
    [26:56] – The DVI process: Not a fix-all, but part of the system
    [33:31] – Is all this new tech actually closing the communication gap?
    [34:29] – You can’t fix your shop by only changing one thing
    [35:05] – Stop sending only techs to training—your advisors need it too
    [38:10] – How removing the emotional element boosts sales
    [40:16] – Flat rate PTSD: Surviving and thriving as a tech
    [43:17] – Focus on problem-solving, not hours produced
    [45:38] – The problem with skip-diagnosis & how to get paid what you’re worth
    [50:39] – Case study: Solving a Hemi truck issue the process-focused way
    [53:46] – Why process, documentation, and repeatable systems protect you
    [55:21] – Still calling the customer only once? It’s lazy—here’s why
    [56:37] – The weight of being a voice for young techs
    [58:47] – Technology is evolving—your training should too
    [59:33] – How women in the industry make process work
    [1:02:05] – Why free diagnostic devalues the work (and how to build value)
    [1:06:02] – What gives Jeff Compton hope for the auto industry

    1 hr 11 min
  • Listen to BAD Advice?? Zeb Beard Says To | Episode 1

    It's our first ever episode!!!! Wow - never did I ever think I'd have a podcast. WHAT??!!! Yet, here we are. I'm ready for this journey and excited for you to join me. Today, for such a cool moment as episode one, who better to help kick it off than Diesel Jesus...Zeb Beard. He shares how he took bad advice and turned it into motivation, saying he's always been a dreamer and than now he's living that dream. My friend Ash Kaplan also joined us to talk about the value of continuous learning, whether through technical training or podcasts, and why having a supportive team—both in the shop and at home—matters. Thanks for listening! 

    Timestamps: 
    00:00 – Turning Bad Advice into Good Advice: Zeb’s approach to coaching
    01:21 – Freak Show Cabernet & Favorite Wines
    02:07 – MetaShades and the Power of Tech in the Shop
    04:01 – Age, Gray Hair, and Embracing Milestones
    08:00 – Big Dreams at Age 10: Zeb’s Early Ambitions
    09:20 – Hustle Matters: From Junkyard Work to Road Grader
    13:00 – Coaching Companies, Internet Reputation, and Giving Back
    17:27 – Working with Susie: Family Hustle & Shop Processes
    19:18 – Teamwork & Shared Goals: World Domination Mindset
    20:55 – The Keys Vacation: Turning Goals into Motivation
    26:09 – Upgrading the Shop: Lessons in Expansion
    29:01 – Chasing the Chicken Plant—Political Realities
    35:08 – Landing the Dream Shop: Monticello Success Story
    36:45 – Visualization: Zeb’s Formula for Achievement
    40:30 – Advice for Shop Owners Ready to Quit
    43:23 – Building a Village: Friends, Faith, & Support
    49:02 – Training: Whose Responsibility Is It?
    51:15 – Hunger for Knowledge: Always Be Learning
    55:10 – Mega Location vs. Multiple Shops
    56:00 – Shop Organization: Lean Teams, Big Results
    01:00:04 – Zeb’s Proudest Achievement: Family & Legacy

    1 hr 6 min

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