I remember after doing TV news for 25 years, I think I was in something of a rut. I wasn't getting the joy I would get in the early days of TV news, and I finally had to leave TV news to start this public relations firm and podcast network. I'm so overjoyed that finally, maybe God pushed me and I took that leap. It's dangerous to take that leap, but my next two guests can talk about getting Zesty. Dr. Alex Golden and Megan Blacksmith are in the studio.