In this episode of The Empower Podcast, host Grant Callen sits down with Dr. Clay Routledge, Executive Vice President of the Archbridge Institute and Director of the Human Flourishing Lab, to explore what really makes life meaningful and why that matters for public policy in Mississippi and beyond.

They discuss how work contributes to dignity and purpose, the psychological components of meaning, why "earned success" matters for well-being, and how public debate often overlooks human flourishing when it focuses solely on economic metrics. Along the way, they explore cultural attitudes about hope, AI's impact on work and community, and what it would take to help more people not just get ahead, but thrive.

This conversation bridges psychology, public policy, and practical ideas for helping Mississippians and all Americans build flourishing lives, not just higher incomes.