My friend Jean Drees is back on the pod, but this time with a guest. 

Suggestion, anytime you wanna be on an episode cite some type of Obama recognition!

Because that's Dr. Navdeep Kang, Chief Clinical Officer and psychologist at Brightview. If you didn't know, they're a newer mental health and substance abuse agency in our area. 

Yes, there's a virus pandemic we're trying to emerge from, but what about the other one, or ones, we've been battling for nearly a decade now. The loss of friends, family members and loved ones to mental health issues and addiction.