In this episode of Death Clock, Brent is joined by Dr. Leonard Jason, a patient advocate and researcher focused on myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), to unpack a disease that is widely misunderstood and chronically underdiagnosed. They discuss what ME/CFS actually is, how it differs from everyday fatigue or burnout, and why post-exertional malaise is its defining feature. Their conversation also covers how patients are often misdiagnosed or dismissed, what the latest research suggests about underlying mechanisms, and how long COVID has forced the medical community to take the condition more seriously. He's a wonderful guest, hope you enjoy.