Be More Pirate

Dr Margaret Heffernan


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It only seems right that we end this season with the godmother of uncertainty, Dr Margaret Heffernan, an entrepreneur, professor, and the multi award winning author of seven books, including Sam and mine’s absolute favourite - Unchartered.  


But it seems somewhat wrong to introduce her by way of books, titles and accolades because as you’ll hear in this episode, Margaret intentionally lives life at the edge of the map, in pursuit of anomalies. Uninterested in fashion or fads, she mentors her students on how to effectively question and disobey norms. In this conversation we discuss what she's learnt about embracing uncertainty - the title of her latest book, and whether willfull blindness has now become strategic denial. Margaret pulls no punches when it comes to leaders peddling outdated ideas. So if you want to know how to live and lead well in an uncertain world, this is a conversation you will definitely enjoy. 



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