We talk with Dr. Pops about the state of readiness of Ojai for the Covid-19 crisis. We talk about Ojai Valley Community Hospital's imminent opening of their continuing care center, acute care center and the community's tremendous support of health care initiatives. Dr. Gus Iwasiuk's incredible surgery to save the life of a man who was skewered by a length of rebar was also remembered fondly. The hospital is also excited to resume the "perfect knee replacements" that are done in Ojai at the new surgery center.

Our wide-ranging talk includes the development of a wide-spectrum, universal vaccine; John Wayne's final days, John Wooden asking if his mother knew what he did for a living, Alexander Fleming and moldy petri dishes, Ignaz Semmelweis' genius that led to saving millions of lives through the simple, yet controversial-in-its-time act of hand-washing.

In the "Thinking Out Loud" segment, Bret Bradigan talks about his mother's incredible kitchen skills and his father's green thumb, a perfect pairing for a food fanatic.

We do not talk about 19th century baseball players, the Glass-Steagal Act, Roman shipbuilding practices or the Apache Wars.