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Show notes:

0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana 

2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani's background

3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background

5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani

7:10 overview of Curia Lab

9:40 Informatics, the science of information

11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery 

15:10 participants in Syrian project  

17:20 Syrian project – evidence on whether there is a connection between Syrian civilian fatalities/casualties and cultural heritage looting

22:45 prelude hypothesis 

27:50 war in Ukraine and its effects on Ukrainian culture

32:00 how the data is used to inform accountability 

34:30 Greenland’s work with Conflict Observatory Ukraine

36:00 Ukrainians’ current restitution, reparations and accountability efforts

37:50 user guides for each area 

42:30 Fabiani’s PhD project on Egyptian archeological looting 

44:00 current project that builds on PhD project 

46:00 impact of technology on their approach, including disinformation 

50:00 complications created by AI, including generative AI

54:00 perspective of skepticism required 

56:30 online risks and need for mitigation

58:15 how their work speaks to justice

58:30 Miranda Fricker’s book Epistemic Injustice: Power and the Ethics of Knowing

1:02:30 questions of justice for whom 

1:05:30 Lauren Stein: question on the role of universities in Curia Lab

1:07:50 hope for their work to establish frameworks of cooperation and collaboration that cherish equal access to knowledge/information that would then lead to equal access to accountability 

1:09:10 hope for their work to facilitate a shift to a multi-disciplinary approach 

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