Dr. Johnson and Dr. Lavalley welcome Dr. Katie Sorensen and Dr. Arameh Anvarizadeh to the podcast to discuss the trials and celebrations of the "Dr." title. We discuss when and where we do and do not want to be called Dr. and some of the underlying messages that can surround the use or not use of this title.

Khalilah and Ryan discuss memories when they learned about their identities as a Black woman and a queer man, what these experiences have taught them as they carry them forward, and how those lessons emerge in their practice, pedagogy, and personal life. "Come Clean" by Blue Cactus is highlighted as their conversation starter.

Ryan and Khalilah introduce the podcast and talk a little bit about their backgrounds, work together, and friendship, and describe hopes for the space this podcast can offer for themselves and for all the other occupation-oriented queens out there.