Hi, Spring fans! In today's episode, I talk to the man, the myth, the legend, the good Dr. Venkat Subramaniam on Kotlin, the future of Java, Spring, open-source, being productive and awesome, and so much more. * Dr. Subramaniam on Twitter - http://twitter.com/Venkat_S * https://twitter.com/starbuxman/status/1103810728883040256 - a tweet asking that whatever recording I do with Dr. Subramaniam for the Bootiful Podcast be longer than an hour (wish granted!) * The image from today's episode comes from a joint-talk that the good Dr. Subramaniam and I did in Atlanta, GA for the epic Devnexus conference. I am using the photo from [Matt Raible's tweet](https://twitter.com/mraible/status/1103692771028803590) * Dr. Subramaniam's new book Programming Kotlin: https://pragprog.com/book/vskotlin/programming-kotlin