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  • Roeing and Wading through the sea of misogyny

    The devastating impact of the overturning of Roe v Wade is very real for millions of women and trans men.

    In this special episode Cath reflects on the public outrage and pleads to not make injustices 'normal'. She explores the links between #metoo last year and recent events, shares personal stories and offers a 30% discount on her 'Roeing and Wading through the sea of misogyny' tshirt.

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    Mentioned in Episode

    Article about cortisol in pregnancy - Imperial College London

    Abortion information NHS

    Ep4 - Valuing motherhood over womanhood

    Ep5 - The day I was charged with murder

    Ep7 - Menopause: The final frontier

    Ep10 - Herstory Rising: The patterns of patriarchy

    Ep17 - Parenting a child through trauma

    Roeing and Wading through the misogyny t-shirt

    Episode Information

    Music by Grant McLachlan

    Resources:

    UK

    Abortion NHS

    British Pregnancy Advisory Service

    Abortion Support Network

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist

    Australia

    Pregnancy Birth and Baby - Abortion information

    Health Direct - Abortion information

    Australian Abortion Law and Practice

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    Headspace - National Youth Mental Health Foundation with support services

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)


    USA

    An overview of Abortion Laws (24 June 2022) - Guttmacher Institute

    Data about abortion in the USA - Pew Institute

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder


    OR if safe to do so, contact medical services in your country.


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    16 min
  • Parenting a Child Through Trauma - with Stephanie

    You think you've done everything you can to prepare your child for protecting their physical boundaries and consent and then the devastating happens. You learn that your child's boundaries have been broken.

    The impact of this kind of trauma is incredibly painful, damaging and long-lasting. The ripple effect means that not only the child suffers, but so do parents and siblings. Personal and shared recovery takes time. In the face of such stressful and emotionally confronting events, how does a family cope?

    In this episode, Stephanie shares the recent story of her family as they've dealt with the trauma of what happened to her daughter. Stephanie raises important questions about consent, physical boundaries, outside influences on teenagers, and the limitations of the law. She also talks about the importance of understanding your child's silence. What are they not telling you? Do they know how to tell you things and are you giving them opportunities to talk to you?

    Stephanie's frank and heart-felt words offer real insight into the challenges of expat parenting in different cultures - national, state and familial.

    Our conversation is challenging to listen to, but an important one for anyone raising children and especially globally mobile families.

    Mentioned in Episode

    Tea and Consent video - Thames Valley Police

    Cusp - documentary

    Euphoria - USA TV Series

    Anatomy of a Scandal - Netflix series

    Naked Attraction - British dating show on Channel 4


    Resources

    UK

    Police - call triple nine (Tel: 999)

    Rape Crisis - England and Wales charity with helpline

    Victim Support - information and support

    NHS - Getting help

    Rape Crisis - Rape and Sexual Abuse Support Centre

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist


    Australia

    Police - call triple zero (Tel: 000)

    1800 Respect - National sexual assault, domestic family violence counselling service

    Healthline - National Helpline and information for sexual assault

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    Headspace - National Youth Mental Health Foundation with support services

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)


    USA

    Police - call nine one one (Tel: 911)

    RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline

    Crisis - Crisis Text Line

    Healthline - Sexual Assault Resource Guide

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder


    OR contact medical/legal/law enforcement in your country.


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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    1 hr 2 min
  • Discovering You Are a Forced Adoptee - with Liz Harvie

    In the expat and globally mobile community we are familiar with adjusting to new cultures, new countries and new homes. In our processing, we often look to our families, our roots, our ancestors and our childhoods. 

    What happens though when that avenue is not available to you? How does it feel to not have the same connection to your roots? Where does that leave you emotionally?

    In this episode, I talk to Liz Harvie about being adopted and the impact of loss and grief as a child, through to adulthood and to having her own family. In our conversation Liz also shares the deeper impact of discovering that her parents were actually forced to give her up for adoption.

    Liz offers insights into the social attitudes towards adoption, plus the emotional and physical importance of knowing where you come from. She also explains why the UK inquiry into forced adoptions matters so much to so many.

    Mentioned in the episode

    Forced Adoption: Birth Parents Urged to Give Evidence to Inquiry - BBC News

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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    Resources

    UK

    Adoption UK - Support and advocacy for those parenting or supporting children who cannot live with their birth parents

    New Family Social - information/support for LGBT+ adoptive & foster families

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist

    Australia

    Forced Adoption Support (South Australia)

    National Apology for Forced Adoptions

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)

    Mensline - help, support, referrals and counselling for men

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    USA

    The Centre for Adoption Support and Education

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder

    OR contact medical services in your country.

    45 min
  • Life with Addictions - with Robyn Flemming

    "You never drank THAT much."

    How often have you heard this yourself or said the same to a friend or family member? Many people consider their level of drinking as 'normal', when in reality it's masking a distressed emotional state.

    We all develop coping mechanisms to deal with stress and people drink alcohol for a variety of reasons. So when does a self medicating vice become an addiction?

    As Robyn Flemming shares this week, it's not so much the amount, but the affect it has and what you're seeking through it. It's also about what you're seeking through your drinking - what is the wound your trying to manage? In this episode Robyn talks candidly about her life with addictions, primarily with alcohol, but also other dependencies. She reveals the ever present personal negotiations around her drinking, and the trade offs she made to enable her addictions. For those with no experience of addiction, Robyn will help you to understand the complexities of this path, the internal struggles and what happens when you start to not like your own behaviour.

    This is a powerful episode that encourages the listener to reflect on the relationship with themselves and explore their own coping mechanisms.

    Robyn is the author of "Skinful: A Memoir of Addiction" and a freelance book editor. An Australian, she lived in Hong Kong from 1986 to 1993, and was a global nomad from 2010 to 2020. A former "grey area" drinker, she has run five marathons and 48 half marathons all over the world. In 2022, she will resume her global travels. Robyn is a keen smartphone street photographer.

    Resources

    • Buy the book - Skinful: A Memoir of Addiction

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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    Resources for help

    In the UK

    Adfam - help for families dealing with drug and alcohol addiction

    Al Anon - Family group support alcohol addiction, drug addiction and addictive behaviours

    Carers UK - Support for carers

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist

    Mind - Addiction and Dependency Support

    In the USA

    National Institute of Mental Health - a range of helplines

    National Suicide Prevention Lifeline - Tel: 1-800-273-8255

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder

    USA Government - Help for Mental Health and Substance Abuse

    In Australia

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    Headspace - National Youth Mental Health Foundation with support services

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)

    Alcohol and Drug Foundation - Help and Support Services

    OR contact medical services in your country.

    52 min
  • Don't 'Dis' My Ability - with Nicole Demos

    What's it like living with a physical disability? We understand that a person may use a wheelchair, but what does that really mean on a daily basis?

    This week Nicole Demos talks honestly about living with a disability. Nicole opens up, not only about her own emotional journey, but how she's been able to use her life experiences to better serve the students she teaches in special education.

    In listening to Nicole, you will learn how to be inclusive about disability why visibility is so important, and when not to be 'helpful'.

    Nicole Demos is proud to be a disabled third culture kid herself with over 25 years of experience in the US and overseas. She holds an M.A in Education from the University of Connecticut, an M.Ed in International Counseling and is currently enrolled in a pilot Social Emotional Behavioral Wellbeing Certificate also from Lehigh University. For the past ten years, Nicole has been a Learning Support teacher for students in grades 6-12 at the International School of Helsinki. Advocacy, Inclusion and Social Emotional Wellbeing are core beliefs that Nicole values and implements daily.

    Nicole is also a SENIA Europe Board Member and seeks to spread awareness regarding inclusion for all in education. Spending time with loved ones and her toy poodle Sisu, singing, reading, traveling and cooking are Nicole’s hobbies when she is not at work.

    Resources

    DeMystifying Disability by Emily Ladau

    Disability Visibility First-Person Stories from the Twenty-first Century - edited by Alice Wong

    Crip Camp - Documentary

    Being Huemann: An Unrepentant Memoir of A Disability Rights Activist by Judith Huemann and Kristen Joiner

    Nina Tame - The Disabled Step-Mum you never knew you needed 

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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    47 min
  • Parenting a Trans Child

    When your child comes out to you as trans, there's a lot that goes through your mind. Parenting is a tough job at the best of times, but add your child’s gender dysphoria and the social and cultural expectations and attitudes on top of that, and parenting changes a gear very quickly.

    Yes, we need to protect trans kids, but in doing that we also need to support their parents. What are they adjusting to and trying to navigate?

    This week I’m chatting with a mother about parenting a trans child. She talks openly about what it's been like for her family and the types of issues they've faced together. In discussing her experiences, she also offers valuable insights that will help other parents support their trans children. And for allies, she gives lots of great ideas about how to be more affirming towards trans people.

    My guest is a wife and mother of three very unique kids. She is raising her family while running a business in the Middle East and is passionate about social justice issues, travel and helping facilitate safe spaces where people from different cultures can grow in understanding of one another.

    Resources

    Becoming Nicole by Amy Ellis Nutt - Book

    Trans Mission: My Quest to a Beard by Alex Bertie - Book

    Transition: The Story of How I Became a Man by Chaz Bono - Book

    Odyessy Teen Camp - Summer Camp in Massachusetts, USA

    The Gender Unicorn - graphic that explains the concepts of identity, expression, sex & attraction

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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    53 min
  • False Memories and Contested Sexual Abuse - with Kevin Felstead

    False memory isn't a subject you hear much about. If you haven't heard about it, consider yourself lucky. Its impact on the individuals involved and their families can be catastrophic, not to mention the cost to the justice system.

    Psychiatrist, Paul R McHugh, describes false memory as “a condition in which a person’s identity and interpersonal relationships are centred around a memory of traumatic experience which is objectively false but in which the person strongly believes." (British False Memory Society website)

    In this episode, Kevin Felstead shares the complexities of working with false memory cases within the UK legal system. He clarifies the difference between false memory allegations and real cases of sexual abuse. In talking about the implications of false memory, Kevin also introduces listeners to the work of the British False Memory Society.

    Kevin is Director of Communications at the British False Memory Society.


    Further information

    British False Memory Society - UK website

    How False Memories Corrupt Our Identities, Politics, and Justice System - Julia Shaw, TEDxBergen


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    Music by Grant McLachlan


    Resources

    Worldwide

    International Domestic Violence Resource Guide 2021


    UK

    Refuge - National Domestic Abuse Helpline

    Citizens Advice - Help for domestic violence and abuse

    Victim Support - Help for domestic abuse

    NHS - Getting help for domestic violence and abuse

    Al Anon - Family group support alcohol addiction, drug addiction and addictive behaviours

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist


    Australia

    1800 Respect - National sexual assault, domestic family violence counselling service

    Lifeline - How to get help for domestic and family violence

    White Ribbon Australia - List of helplines for domestic abuse

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    Headspace - National Youth Mental Health Foundation with support services

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)

    Alcohol and Drug Foundation - Help and Support Services


    USA

    National Domestic Violence Helpline - Domestic violence support

    National Institute of Mental Health - A range of helplines

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder


    OR contact medical/legal/law enforcement in your country.

    52 min
  • Polyamory: Families and Relationships - with Adrienne Sweetwater

    The hetero-normative view of family is what we mostly see represented publicly and in the media. We might hear about LGBTQ+ families, but commonly we're shown a couple or a single parent.

    What about polyamorous families? Can you remember the last time you saw these types of relationships on TV or in the newspaper?

    In this episode, Adrienne Sweetwater talks about her life in a poly triad. She shares how a queer identity intersects with having a global mindset and being a adult third culture kid. Adrienne offers insights into the difference between one's different emotional and physical needs, plus the complexity and importance of legal protection for poly families living globally mobile lives.

    And if you're not in a poly relationship and don't quite know what to say when you find out someone is, she gives us all a great way to answer!

    Resources

    Polyamory Weekly - Podcast

    The Ethical Slut - Book

    Polyamory (Leon Feingold) - TEDxBushwick

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    Music by Grant McLachlan

    1 hr 1 min
  • Patterns of Patriarchy: Herstory Rising - with Chrissy Ward

    The extent to which patriarchal history still shapes women's lives today is extraordinary. In this episode, we explore just quite how much - from medical treatment, women's experiences in employment, and the social expectations placed upon them.

    Chrissy Ward offers a fascinating insight into how this history plays out every day in women's lives.

    Chrissy Ward describes herself as a woman, a witch and a fellow human. It’s time to embrace our inner goddesses! Its been a rocky road … not the chocolate type! I’m a survivor and want to help my fellow goddesses on their pathways.

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    www.ravencrowwellbeing.com

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    • Music by Grant McLachlan

    Resources

    UK

    Women's Health - NHS

    Find Women's Health Services - NHS

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    Australia

    HealthTalk Australia - Resources and information

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)

    USA

    Office on Women's Health - Government website (info, support, treatments)

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder


    OR contact medical services in your country.

    59 min
  • Unexpected Listening: 'Being Rock' with Mandy Preece

    Today's episode is the last in this first series. We've looked at eight different lives, all challenging in their own way, to the individuals themselves, but also to the people that they encounter.

    And now you've heard some of these stories, I wanted to conclude the series with giving you something practical, a 'how to'.

    How do we deal with these unexpected moments? How do we be present with someone when they tell us something that we don't know what to do with?

    I've brought back Mandy Preece, author and creator of Being Rock, the award-winning communications training. Being Rock is a superb method of listening which gives us the tools to manage the moment when we don't know how to react to what we've just heard.

    This is a powerful end to this first series as Mandy shares very real and practical techniques that will enable you to be present with people in ways that you never imagined.

    In This Episode

    • How we listen incorrectly
    • Why unexpected listening changes everything
    • Noticing the elephant in the room and using it
    • Why 'but' is the word you need to listen to
    • What to do when someone rants at you

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    Episode information

    Music by Grant McLachlan

    Resources

    UK

    Samaritans - FREE Help - Tel: 116 123, E: [email protected]

    NHS Depression Support Groups

    NHS Mental Health Services

    The British Psychology Society - Find a Psychologist


    Australia

    Mensline - help, support, referrals and counselling for men

    Beyond Blue - Mental health support

    The Black Dog Institute - Medical health resources, services and research

    SANE Australia - Counselling support, Tel: 1800 187 263 (10am - 10pm)


    USA

    American Psychologist Association - Psychologist Finder


    OR contact medical services in your country.

    49 min

About Drawn to a Deeper Story

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Drawn to a Deeper Story is about lives that challenge us and the difficult conversations around them. If you've ever wanted to have better conversations, connect more deeply with people and hold a desire to drop judgement, this podcast will help you. It’s a place to listen openly, to absorb people’s truths and to learn how to show up differently for the benefit of everyone.