Yeah, this is a US immigration attorney Hardam Tripathi I know, I to talk too much, sometimes I try to give other Panelists time to speak, but just to address it. It's a difficult question because we are not in the minds of these congressional members. But I am very wary when I said that asylum is a whole another area of law. But Dreamers and asylum, I mean, it's like apples to oranges, in my opinion. Other panelists may have another opinion on that, but I do see everything kind of like what Emily was saying earlier, attorney Emily that we have to take it one step at a time.

I know it's very hard to hear this kind of news, and I always try to be, as is understanding and empathetic to my clients, because at the end of the day, I myself am an immigrant. I understand the situations, what people go through. And it's just unfortunate. I come from a third world country as well and I mean respect for my own nation. But at the end of the day, asylum laws are very different as compared to what the Dreamers and what Obama was trying to do with DACA.

And at the end of the day, I always look at it as, look, you can't get the whole like they always say Rome wasn't built overnight. You got to look at it one step at a time, one piecemeal approach of law at a time. I always look at anything when it comes to immigration, knowing that the partisan politics involved in the nature of the game, the beast that is immigration and the humanitarian implications it has on people, I count a win, a win one thing at a time.

So the end of the day, to answer your question, sir, I have a lot of Iraqi clients as well, a lot of Iranians. There's a lot of cultural differences as well. And I always have to hash those out as they get prepared to go into those interviews. I actually love representing Iraqis and Iranians because I'm from India. It's pretty, pretty nearby. And a lot of the traditions and the culture somewhat similar or somewhat different. But the other day they're Americans have lived here.

And there's a lot of differences sometimes as it relates to the culture that I try to explain to the officers ahead of time, as well as a preface. But at the end of the day, I think what's going to happen with the situation, with respect to what the Senate's going to do, let's count that as a win when it does pass. That has not passed yet, of course. But when it does and when President Biden signs it, we can all celebrate here and then let's move on to asylum, because the way you have to tackle these immigration issues is one thing at a time.

You can't expect people who have political agendas and certain Extra-Curricular kind of motives and expect everything to happen overnight. So is your question. I don't believe the doctor will bleed over into asylum reform. I'm hoping it does. I have a whole issue on waivers as well for those who come in and out of the country and all the respected bars that are applied. I have so many clients every day come in and say, hey, I came from Mexico, I went back to Mexico and I came back.

And then I have to give. Given the important news, like, look, you came back within the three year bar, you came back with the 10 year bar, and there's nothing on the books that I can do for them unless they qualify for a U visa or something of that nature where they're a victim of a crime or things like that. But at the end of the day, I think immigration is heading in the right direction. I tend to stay optimistic.

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