Anything worth doing is better done with other people, to paraphrase Mariame Kaba. This week, we're talking a lot about the collaboration that goes into making art. Brendan and Chris tell some songwriting stories, and later shoutout readers at lit mags. In between, Chris sits down virtually with author Lincoln Michel to talk stealing time to write, reading contemporary novels, and secret focaccia.

Buy Metallic Realms here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Metallic-Realms/Lincoln-Michel/9781668058671

Check out Lincoln's blog: https://countercraft.substack.com/

The L&E website, including the Shipwrecked Sailor blog: https://www.lazyandentitled.org/

The blog Chris referenced about Spencer writing a song: https://www.lazyandentitled.org/?p=152151897

Shipwrecked Sailor music: https://shipwreckedsailor.bandcamp.com/

B & The Shipwrecked Sailor: https://bandtheshipwreckedsailor.bandcamp.com/album/weight-of-an-anchor

B & The Nothingness: https://bandthenothingness.bandcamp.com/