Conversation with Ali Baba’s Tahini founding member and bass player, Mother Vinegar guitarist, and the man who is responsible for some of the Umphrey’s McGee songs that you know and love. Listen as Karl talks about the various music projects that he’s been working on, dives into his love of taking apart guitars and making something that you can’t find in a store, we take a little walk down memory lane back to the days of ABT and Umphrey’s opening for each other and sharing a stage, where the OG “Bright Lights, Big City” can be found, relives a story that Ryan Stasik told when he was on the podcast back in November, we also talk about the recently released Ali Baba’s Tahini album bottom feeders, his just released "Food" album and more.