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Some stats about our guest today that may even be out of date by now: he has
played on 89 top 20 albums, 53 number ones, he has produced Debbie Harry, and
played with the likes of Stevie Nicks, Tina Turner and Rod Stewart. Geoff Dugmore
talks with us about playing for the song, bringing a good feeling to a session, and his surprising pastime when he’s not busy with music.
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Ellie East has been Dave Stewart’s drummer of choice for the last 2 years, and her bouncy energy and positive vibes make it easy to see why she is consistently booked for tours and session work. Ellie tells us how her new outlook on finding interests outside of music and the need to take a break from work are helping her to feel calm, and how she has accepted that some parts of the music industry are simply beyond her control.
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Gabi King joined the 1975 as their percussionist after auditioning for them by performing on the Jonathan Ross Show, which led to her learning the entire percussion set in two weeks before flying out to join them on tour in Mexico.Of course, she smashed it and has been with them ever since!
Gabi tells us the importance of looking after mental health on tour, staying relaxed when working with big names, being a good hang as a session player, and something no one has ever asked her before in an interview…which is her favourite tattoo?!
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Tom Howarth’s drum reels are witty, entertaining, full of stick tricks and favoured by the algorithm! Tom tells us how he comes up with his content, about family life supporting a child with additional needs, his new online drum school, and what word he thinks almost got him banned from Instagram…
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Our last episode before we have a week off for Christmas. We update you with if we are ready for the big day, what we're hoping to get, 2026 and our love of pie!
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Maxie is playing drums for music that feels like it is making a difference: touring with artists and activists such as Kate Nash, Jasmine.4.t and Isha, Maxie has had a busy 2025, full of touring, recording, and even a ghostly encounter in Hamburg…
Maxie talks to us about committing to and keeping faith in what you’re doing,
creating space for transgender people in music, and the positive experiences they
have had in helping to diversify the drum industry’s artist rosters.
Photo by: @judeharr8
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2025 has been a big year for Martina Barakoska both personally and professionally; she’s moved to a different country, learned a new language, filmed a phenomenal commercial for Thomann, hosted a masterclass at the UK Drum Show, and is busy with new music. And those are just a couple of highlights.
Martina tells us what inspired her to leave her hometown of Skopje in North Macedonia to move to Berlin, and her balanced approach to dealing with the positives and negatives of social media.
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Having enjoyed huge success with Paul Weller and the Style Council from the latter part of his teenage years, Steve White went on to tour all over the world and become a hugely respected drum clinician, author and educator. As a dad to four children, and husband to a successful actress and producer, how has he fitted his music career together with family life? Steve tells us how he has adapted over the years, the importance that he puts on to supporting upcoming music talent, and how he has changed his playing style to recover from an injury that he thought had ended his career.
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Gemma and Ciara have been up to new things… Ciara is about to launch ‘Begin’, an online beginner drum course that people can do at their own pace, and Gemma has set up Swiftiedrums on social media, where people can learn the real drum parts to Taylor Swift songs with notation and drum charts to download.
Talking about learning new skills, adapting, asking other people for help (even when it feels uncomfortable), and the freedom in not worrying about how people perceive us, the Drummer Mamas team are moving into new territory…
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Sarah Hagan worked as the Director of Artist Relations at Zildjian for several years, is on the Board of Advisors for the Percussive Arts Society, and now runs her own consulting company, so if anyone knows about the topic of diversity and inclusion, it’s her! We asked her what changes she has seen in the drum industry and what she hopes for the future of it. How can we ensure fair representation of women and minority groups at music events? Sarah shares her knowledge.
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From the publisher's feed
Drummer Mamas is hosted by drummers, mums and long-time friends Ciara Chinniah and Gemma Hill.
Ciara and Gemma love to explore the other side of drummers — less gear, more stories, ideas,…
Through honest conversations with drummers from all walks of life, they chat about music, creativity, careers and everything that happens beyond the kit.
Because there’s always more to a drummer than drumming. 🥁❤️

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