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Welcome to the daily fill with me your host Richard Ducat

Today's episode is dedicated to Sib Hashian  

Sib played on Boston’s first two bestselling LPs, he has died at the age of 67. Everyone here at Drummers I Like wants to send our condolences to his friends and family.

The Daily Quote:

Dale Carnegie: "Remember happiness doesn't depend upon who you are or what you have; it depends solely on what you think"

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What's going on today?

Shawn from Salt drums is coming over to Drummers I Like HQ to play drums today! We are testing out a ton of snares, a mini kit and having a hang! I'm extremely stoked!

Noam Lederman

After that, we are recording with Noam Lederman, a Drum Educator and Author from the UK! It's going to be a great show and great day!

PODCAST OF THE DAY!

TOSH PETERSON EPISODE 30! Do you want to get to know more about Tosh the drummer? Just Click here!

A few things you can expect to hear on our episode with Tosh!

1. Practice and Warm up (Tosh points out some good advice)

2. Standing out in a populated world of drummers

3. Keeping a good head on your shoulders and the eyes on the prize

 

That's it for the Daily Fill! Tune in Every Morning Monday Through Thursday for a new episode!

- Richard

Daily Music (heard in intro/outro):

JoJo Mayer & Nerve - Another Year

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Welcome back to this weeks’ episode of the Drummers I Like podcast. Today we have the pleasure of chatting with none other than Jeeves Avalos. Jeeves is the Drum Tech for Falling in Reverse, Chelsea Grin, and currently, Luke Holland.

In this Episode

* On The Grind: Get a real look into the mind of a "Drumtreprenuer" who is laser-focused and completely in tune with his goals.

* The true path to success: Jeeves points back to year 13 of his life and the moment that changed his outlook on self-progression forever.

* Getting The Gig: Jeeves gives us the run down on what it takes to make it as a paid tech in the touring world.

About Jeeves

Jeeves comes from a musical family with a father who played guitar and continually supplied Jeeves with a wide variety of genre's growing up! With his dad being a devout guitar player he felt compelled to pick up the 5 stringed string box but it wasn't long until a Marlyn Manson Concert opened his eyes to the fun of drums and inspired him to make the jump to his playing drums!

After a disappointing first time jam with his father pushed him to change his gears, Jeeves Avalos found himself working his tail off to perfect his playing. Jeeves took the youtube learning approach for his first 4 years until deciding to take the leap into Online lessons with none other than the Guru Mike Johnston himself! This really changed his approach to playing, his attitude and of course, his abilities as he crushed through almost a year straight of Mike's Courses.

“You Don't have to try and cram everything in at once”

Jeeves has taken a very patient and strict approach to his playing and without lacking the humble approach, navigated his way through a tight-knit touring group full of some of the industries most prolific players. We once again make numerous references to what it takes to make it in the industry... BE A COOL HANG!

Rapid Singles

1. What was one of the biggest hurdles you had to overcome as a drummer

Jeeves: always have something to set you apart

2. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received

Jeeves: Just say yes.

3. What's a personal habit that contributes to your success?

Jeeves: the want to succeed and the passion for growing.

4. Share a resource or tool like an app or a drum tool that helps you survive.

Jeeves: Pro metronome app

5. if you could recommend just one book what would it be and why?

Jeeves: Nuero Linguistic Programming book. NLP by Richard Bandler. - Click here to get your Free audible trial and get this book for FREE

6. Imagine you woke up tomorrow in a world exactly like ours... You have no contacts and no one knows who you are but you possess all of the same knowledge and talents you currently have. You have $500, a smartphone, life essentials (food, a roof over your head), a car and a drum set of your choice. What would be your first move if you were going to rebuild your career/brand?

Jeeves: I would spend $200 on a local camera guy and get myself into a studio and shoot some drum videos.

I would use the remaining money to travel to L.A. and play with whoever I can at all times.

Jeeves is a true inspiration for all drummers looking to take their playing to the next level and If you haven't taken a peep at him yet, then now is the time!

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Welcome back to this weeks’ episode of the Drummers I Like podcast. Today we had the pleasure of sitting down with Greg Hersey. Greg is an educator, touring drummer and the founder of the #Completethebeat Instagram series. Greg is endorsed by Cympads, DrumTacs, DrumDial, Kickport, RimRiser, and OneBeat Better.

In this Episode

* Discover the path that leads Greg to become an educator behind the drums.

* The role models and mentors that Greg learned from and how he takes their positive reinforcement and teaches his students to be confident behind the kit.

* The tightknit community of drummers that sparked the idea of “Complete the Beat.” as an education tool and way to connect others in this age of technology.

About Greg

Greg Hersey is a Florida native that comes from a family of drummers. At a young age, Greg grew up around the kit. One of the biggest influences at the beginning for Greg was his dad Scott. Once the seed had been planted Greg found his niche through some old school drummers such as Steve Gadd, Vic Firth, and young Tony Royster Jr. With such a wide variety of musical styles, these DVD's pushed Greg to widen his depth of knowledge and playing style further.

Greg started to get paid gigs while still in high school. These gigs were mostly local shows where Greg and his band mates played cover songs at bars and smaller venues. The aspect of being a paid musician at a young age gave Greg the drive to continue pursuing music. After high school, Greg auditioned at a handful of universities to study music further and eventually graduated from the University of North Florida.

“I know this is a good idea because nobody else is doing it!”

Not all great ideas are obvious, but all obvious ideas are great, and the idea of sharing a groove with others via Instagram in which individuals can learn from and add to the beat themselves is an excellent idea. Greg thought this concept through for quite some time before posting his videos. The primary focus of the videos was to break the stigma that to be a good drummer meant you had to shed regularly.

Being an inspiration to others, sharing your passion with the world, having compassion and humility will take you farther than you could ever have imagined. Competition is always around trying to bring you down but holding true to yourself being positive, genuine human lands the gig every time. Hear it first hand from Greg the most down to earth, easy going drummers around in this week's episode.

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Drum resource of the week: The TonalEnergy

Greg’s recommended book is: Tommy Igoe’s: Groove Essentials 1.0

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Welcome to back to the podcast! This week we have a very special guest on the show, Mike Martin. Mike is the Founder and owner of Predator Percussion. Mike specializes in the crafting of custom segmented stave snare drums.

Kevin and Richard had the opportunity to test out some snare drums from Predator Percussion which they will be reviewing for you today. Rich and Kev received two completely different snares, but the overall consensus is same. They Kick Ass!

1:30 – 8:00 - After Richard introduces Mike and Predator Percussion we jump right into what started the idea of Predator. For Mike, it all started after an injury on the job that limited Mikes playing behind the kit. Mike has always refurbished his drum kits throughout the years, so it just seemed natural that he started making his drums. Even as a teenager Mike would look through the Trader for materials to create drums since he didn’t have the funds to buy the newest gear back in ’84.

8:00 – 13:00- It wasn’t until the 7x13 Walnut snare that Mike had donated to his local church and met his partner, that Mike knew he wanted to turn this hobby into a business.

Kevin asks "why stave"? If you have ever played on a stave snare the difference in sound compared to a traditional snare is evident. Stave snares tend to resonate sound from top to bottom. This sound happens because each segment is glued together vertical creating an easier pathway for the sound waves to travel. Mike had originally started stave construction out of necessity but continues it because of its outstanding results.

13:00 – 17:30- Kevin who has expressed lots of interest in wanting to start learning how to make stave snares says that of all the ways to make a drum stave might be the easier route as far as the equipment needed to start the process. Mike invests a lot of math into his construction of a drum since everything has to be within hundreds of an inch to correctly line up and achieve the perfect symmetry to be able to start the stave process. Even tho creating a snare with this process might require less equipment it is in no way an “easier” process. Mike does prefer the stave method because it produces more undertone in the finished product.

17:30 – 20:00- Now the snare reviews! Mike will break down the specs of each of the drums starting with Kevin’s. After the specs, have been given Kevin and Richard will provide us with their feedback about the experiences they had with these beautiful snares.

Specs for Kevin’s stave snare:

Walnut Stave Snare with Satin finish 7x14 walnut*

* 7/16 thickness

* Double 45° bearing edge on batter side

* Black/Satin fade finish

* Black nickel tube lugs and die-cast hoops

* RCK throw off

* Evans heads and PureSound snare wires

 

*The wood was reclaimed from a bank in Louisville, KY!

20:00 – 30:00- Kev’s Review: After impatiently waiting, Kev received his snare in time for practice with his heavier band Sharptooth! Out of the box, this snare had a medium-tight tuning, but given the room size of the rehearsal space Kevin tightened up the tuning to help it cut through the bands mix a bit more. The projection of this snare is off the charts in a good way! Kevin played a few shows with this snare unmixed. Even without the mics, this baby was ringing throughout the venue. The beauty and craftsmanship of this drum make it stand out on its own, but the real perk to the drum is its response and versatility. Tuned high it cuts like a sword and can hold any tuning you throw at it. This Predator Percussion snare is the first experience Kevin has had with a walnut shell and based on this it will not be his last.

30:00 –  42:00- Richards stave snare Specs:

African Padauk Stave Snare with clear finish

Welcome back for this week’s episode of the Drummers I Like Podcast. This week we have the pleasure of talking shop with the bright and witty Evan Ryan.

Evan is the Founder, CEO, and Lead Educator of The Drum School L.A. He works closely with DW Drums, Evans Drum Heads, Paiste, and Pro-Mark Drumsticks and if I could put a label on him. Expert Communicator. This guy knows his stuff and he isn't afraid to get the conversation going.

Intro – 2:00: Rich and Kevin introduce Evan. Rich and Evan met earlier this year at NAMM and Rich had the awesome chance to play with Evan, Joey Bones, Jessica Beaurdeux, Phil A.K.A. Drumlix, Vince Garvin and Earl Talbot at The Drum School LA.

2:00 – 16:00: Evans journey with drums began with lessons on a practice pad focusing on learning his rudiments. A powerful role model, Evans Mother accompanied him the entire time to ensure he was getting the most of his time. Working out of America’s N.A.R.D Drum Solos book for hours on end Evan took no shortcuts on this powerful journey. Kevin mentions how he shared the same experiences as a young drummer playing on a pad and snare drum but always wanting to play behind the drum kit. Evan eventually took this skill to the drumline in his high school and college, as well as jazz and big band. This experience took Evan all over from Germany to California.

16:00 – 26:00: Richard starts this next segment off by saying that his experience practicing with Evan at the drum School really opened Richards eyes to a new approach to his practicing. By being in a group Rich finds it easier to focus and build off of the energy everyone is bringing to the table.

After hearing Evan talk, and seeing his personality behind the kit it's clear that he is one of those people who gets along with everyone. His ability to present lessons in a very understanding way to any and all students is like no other. Evan mentions that the road to becoming an educator was filled with many mentors who guided him along the way, and for Evan not all mentors were drummers. One of the drummers that stand out is Rob Parton, a trumpet player whose way of teaching paved the foundation for Evan’s style of teaching.

26:00 – 41:00: Earl Talbot and Evan met at a gas station almost six years ago by means of a bumper sticker Evan had on his car. After a fun and fruitful conversation involving some comedic frustration from Earl, a friendship was born. Evan gives us a run down on how Earl gave him a new view on counting time. Instead of counting the original four bar measures, Earl breaks it up into 12/4 so it's more of a whole piece.

Ex. If you have a bar of 4/4 quarter notes, you can turn those into eight note triplets take away the bar line and this will give you 12 notes.

Evan further explains this in depth and lets us in on a little secret that he is currently working on. Evan and the cats at The Drum School L.A are going to be releasing The Power of 12 lesson series in the near future. Below is a small snippet showing a closer look at the way Evan breaks down this concept of 12/4.

Rapid Singles

* What was holding you back from becoming a successful drummer? My own head. Getting out of my head, “are they better than me?” I just have to show up and be me!

* What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? While seeing a trio show with Herbie Hancock, Jack DeJohnette, and Dave Holland in Chicago. “Just let go.”

* What's a personal habit that contributes to your success? Punctuality, Lombardi time, and being prepared.

* Share a resource or tool that helps you survive as a drummer. Metronome

* Recommend just one drum book or video. What would it be and why?

Welcome back to another exciting episode of Drummers I Like Podcast. Today we have on the show Zack Austin the, “Metal Machine!” Zack is studio/session drummer from New York endorsed by Mia Moore Styx.

Intro – 13:30 Richard welcomes Zack and kicks us right off, diving into what brought Zack Austin to the drums. Zack’s start to music was at an earlier age from listening to his dad’s plethora of classic music, which spawned Zack’s hunger for the drums. After receiving his first kit Zack played the hell out of it through his school career drawing influences from bands such as Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, and Job For A Cowboy. Zack then, through playing with local bands at the time shifted his style more towards death metal which is where he currently stands. From there it is safe to say he has earned his nickname as the “Metal Machine.”

13:30 – 33:00 Zack opens up about what made him start posting videos of his drumming. What started humbly for Zack, posting videos of his practices since at the time he wasn’t in a band has grown in a way unpredicted. From the mind bottling growth over the past year, Zack still makes it a priority to reach out to those in the drumming community on Instagram by always replying to comments and messages.

33:00 – 52:00 Zack Segways us into the next section about his gear and his set up. Zack plays on Istanbul Agop cymbals and has a very interesting way of setting them up and stacking cymbals to create the sound that cuts through the music in a satisfying way. The use of these cymbals for the genre of music Zack plays is a refreshing change from the more common cymbal brands that most drummers play on. Zack also takes a very thought out approach to how he sets up his cymbals in that he will arrange effects cymbals based on where he wants the effect either on the upbeat or the downbeat.

52:00 – 1:10:00  Before we wrap up the show Zack shares his practice routine, and how he got to be such a solid, clean drummer. Being the metal beast he is Zack elaborates on his technique when playing blast beats, which is a mix of technique and gravity blasting.

Rapid Singles

1.What was holding you back from becoming a successful drummer? Speed, even tho Zack is always trying to push himself further and faster

* What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? Be proud of what you are and what you are doing.

* What's a personal habit that contributes to your success? Foot tapping

* Share a resource or tool that helps you survive as a drummer. Metronome App!

* Recommend just one book. what would it be and why? Emanuel's Book: A Manual for Living Comfortably in the Cosmos

* Imagine you woke up tomorrow in a world exactly like ours, you still had all the same knowledge and talent that you have as a drummer but you know no one. All you have is $500, a smartphone, and small portable drum set. What would you do first? Take the $500 and finish my “dream” kit, since I don’t know anyone else I don’t have to be anywhere, except behind the kit.

Thanks for tuning into this week's episode with Zack Austin. Thanks so much for Zack spending the time to try and fill us in on what it takes to be the Metal Machine. Zack has gained a huge following very quickly and it's easy to see why with the skills he possesses behind the kit. Check him out on Instagram @Zackaustin and don’t forget to use a free trial of Audible.com to give Zack’s book recommendation a listen.

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Today we have a very exciting guest on the show, Omari Augustine. Omari is a Drumeo certified teacher from Trinidad and Tobago, he has toured the world playing all styles of music.

Omari is a creative, one of a kind musician who has so much passion and excitement for what he does. Omari is endorsed by, Pro-mark, Evans drumheads, True Tuner, Lowboy Beaters, Serenity Drums, Drumtacs, D’adario Drummer's clothing Co.

3:00-10:00 For Omari, his drumming journey started very early from his dad who was also a drummer. Seeing his dad playing this instrument sparked the inspiration for Omari that blossomed into his life today. Then at the age of only fourteen Omari joined a band and began to travel the world, from the Caribbean Islands to New York, playing Calypso. This style of music is most commonly performed by such artists as Ras Shorty I, Nigel Lopez. This style of music is also commonly associated various forms of worship throughout the world.

10:00 – 13:30 As a teacher, Omari is always open to a challenge and while working with a student he was challenged with playing the drums backward. If you haven't seen any of Omari’s videos on Instagram or his YouTube channel, I recommend checking those out, where you can learn from his lessons as well as see some backward drumset skills. Even as a teacher it is always a learning experience for Omari.

13:30 – 28:00 Now Omari breaks down his very creative and funky style of playing and the one of a kind cymbals and kit he plays on. For Omari, having a kit that stands out artistically goes hand in hand with playing that stands out. The most notable cymbal that stands out on Omari’s kit is his painted Hi-Hats, which were actually done by his very talented sister. His sister is currently earning her degree in art and is always working with Omari, designing everything from drumsticks to snare drums. Omari also brings a lot of creativity into his drum covers he will do from time to time. His most recent cover of a Major Lazor song has lots interesting cinematography in it. Omari never takes himself to serious, and you can see in his covers and videos is that Omari enjoys what he does very much.

28:00 – 33:00 Rich ask what everyone wants to know about, and that’s the Serenity Drum kit that Omari plays on. Omari shares how he got in contact with John of Serenity Drums, and eventually became a part of the Serenity Drum family. Serenity drums is a unique custom drum company who values personal detail as much as they stand behind their products. From hand selecting veneers geared towards each individual's’ style of playing so the kit really becomes an extension of the artist, to personally delivering each drum kit, Serenity Drums stand out in the crowd. Omari's custom kit is a four piece set up in a natural finish, the common one up one down for the toms and the matching snare, this kit is a beautify work of art. And don't forget the added art done by Omari's sister and Lola Blu to really make his kit pop.

Rapid Singles!

1.What was holding you back from becoming a successful drummer? Getting past the barrier of not having the confidence to share.

2.What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? “Your humility will take you further than your skills ever will.” Omari’s dad gave this gem of advice to him.

3.What's a personal habit that contributes to your success? Wanting to help people accomplish what they thought was at one point impossible

4.Share a resource or tool that helps you survive as a drummer. Drumeo

Welcome back to this week’s episode of Drummers I Like. Today isn’t an ordinary show, today we have our first ever take over episode! Amir Oosman will be hosting, and his guest and good friend Nick Arocho will be sharing his experiences and inspirations. Amir is an exceptional musician, producer, and engineer. He has played and taught with the Blue Devils. Nick also has a background in drumline performing as well with the Blue Devils, RCC, and takes that experience and structure with him. So get ready to be inspired by these amazing lads!

0:00-3:40 - Richard Introduces Amir, explains a little about how they met, and how Amir and Nick have become good friends. Richard then quickly lets Amir have the wheel and take us on this amazing ride!

3:40-11:00 - We delve into Nick’s past and what brought him to the drums, and ultimately to the drum kit. Nick started and has a deep rooted past with drumline. Nick has played in the Drum Corp for Arizona State, Blue Devils, and RCC. He has won world championships awards as well. For Nick, the daily challenges he faced while in the drum corp really helped him mature, not only as a drummer but as an individual, from all day practices in the Arizona heat to a metronome beating into his ears.

11:00 – 14:30 - How did your drumline experience help you play drum set? For Nick, the biggest transition pain, switching to the kit, was adjusting to the size of the drumsticks used to play jazz. Along with having a smaller stick, playing with more dynamics was also a new take for Nick when moving away from the Bass Drum. On the bright side tho, learning to play to a metronome really helped Nick fall into the pocket while playing jazz.

14:30 – 22:20 - Nick and Amir now share how they are able to play in a Drum Corp. For those who might not know, playing in drum corp is expensive, and for those just starting out, they might not have a support system behind them to finance equipment or transport them. Nick points out that although he had a support system behind him when starting out if he didn’t have that support, the best way to find it is reaching out to the community for help. Asking neighbors, local businesses, and really getting creative in your approach to achieving your goals is key to receiving that support. There is no downside to being told no if the person saying no isn't giving you anything already.

22:20 – 36:00 - Amir shifts us away from drumline to point out that Nick isn't only an amazing drummer but he is a talented web designer. While Nick was attending ASU he took web design as an elective. From there, Nick started designing websites for his friends and eventually was asked if he could design a website for money. Since then Nick has designed websites for many well-known Musicians such as Wayne Bergeron, Scott Johnson, and much more. Nick has been able to create amazing websites, while also using that as a network for his music. Even tho music isn't his main source of income, Nick finds that the two coincide with one another in how he learns and shares new ideas and content. Amir expands on how inspiring it is how Nick has grown his web design business just by having confidence, and desire to learn and grow.

36:00 – 42:00 - All of this amazing knowledge and talent that Nick has acquired is not the result of sitting and hoping, it's from taking on new experiences with confidence. One of the ways Nick works out his brain is by ready. Amir asks Nick if he has any material, such as books or online resources, that he uses to learn a new craft or further gain knowledge? Aside from the obvious Youtube, and Google, Nick uses a website called www.udemy.com, which has hundreds of lectures and books available. Nick also reads many books such as How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie,

Hey, Everyone! Welcome back to another episode of the Drummers I Like Podcast! This week Rich, Kevin, and Jamie catch up to chat Buying drums and all the little details involved.

Richard has been busy moving and with the weekly guest scheduling being canceled to ensure a smooth transition the boys wanted to whip out a quick update for all our awesome listeners!

0:00-7:00 - The Boys chat about the weather and how it plays a big part of their day. Fortunately for California, the drought has been temporarily lifted. We will what happens. They go on to chat about the late Butch Trucks and the details surrounding his death

8:00-44:00 - Kevin breaks down his current predicament wrapped around buying a new drum set. We chat Sakae drums and go into depth on custom drums and the difference in craftsmanship revolved around building drums from a solo and manufacturer perspective. We also dive into the history of the Ludwig Black beauty as Jamie breaks down the history of this amazing snare. We also dig into the DW Edge snare and the versatility involved in playing this drum.

We kept it simple this week with Richard's move but no worries as our guest lineup has piled up beyond belief! Check back next week as Richard, Kevin, and Jamie bring on another amazing guest to talk shop!

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Welcome back to another episode of the Drummers I like podcast! This week we chat about Rich's trip to Winter NAMM 2017 and we have the pleasure of having Jamie Gamble on to add to our discussion about some of the cool people and products that were showcased at this year's show.

Intro - 10:00: In our usual fashion things get started with us talking about the weather in California. Rich mentions that we will be talking about his Thursday trip to NAMM. (As well as rubbing in the fact that I couldn't make it!) Then I get to share a fun drumming experience I had gigging in Orlando last weekend. Jamie mentions that he has some big upcoming news regarding some new endorsements, so we can't wait to hear more about that soon. He also mentions what he's been up to behind the drums! Now its time to get down to business!

10:00 - 15:00: Now Rich gets things going about his time at NAMM. He was able to make it on Thursday for the opening of the show! He was able to catch up with quite a few fans of the show as well as some past guests. On Friday night he was invited for a lesson at The Drum School L.A. with none other than Earl Talbot as well as Evan Ryans. The lesson was involving independence in triplets from African Rhythms for Drumset by Anthony Bourdon. Rich was among great company and had a great time!

15:00 - 18:00: Here Rich really starts to break down his time at the show on Thursday. He a lot of the day moving around the show with our boy Joey Parasole (aka JoeyBones). Joey really spent a lot of time introducing Rich to a lot of awesome people and we can't thank him enough for being an awesome guy to hang with! Thanks to Joey we got to connect with A&F Drums which make some amazing retro vintage kits.

18:00 - 26:00: Since I wasn't able to attend the show I really wanted to know what some of the most standout companies or products that were out there. Rich mentions Beat Box Drums. They make a self-containing drumset. Think trap kit or cocktail kit, but with amazing craftsmanship. This great portable kit has some huge sound! This leads to a great chat about drum kit sizes and portability.

26:00 - 36:00: Now it's time for Jamie to share what product really stood out to him. He took a liking to Sonor's acrylic drums! One noticeable difference was that their acrylic shells don't have a seam. Which can be the weak point on a lot of these type of drum shells. Plus the seam can be an eyesore. We talk at length about acrylic shells throughout this segment.

36:00 - 39:00: Rich talks a bit about Love Custom Drums out of Southern California. They endorse Joey and make VERY beautiful drumkits. Buddy is a great guy and makes some classy kits. One thing that stood out to Rich was their affordability. There was a lot of guys shooting video while testing some Love kits so go and check them out.

39:00 - 45:00: Then Rich mentions the NAMM Show 2017 sound police! Apparently, they had some guys going around and issuing tickets if your booth was being too loud. Rich got to experience this first hand when A&F Drums got issued a citation while he was in their booth. Jamie noticed it as well and has some insight into what he thought about it too. Seems a bit excessive to us. If you put drums around drummers your gonna hear some noise.

45:00 - 53:00: Next we talk about Aerodrums, which just grows in popularity. They make a system that uses a camera eye and sensors that go on the tip of the drumstick and a pair of sensors that attach to your feet. When played it looks like your air drumming with sticks. But don't let that fool you. It's a MIDI instrument and it sounds like your playing a full kit! It can be run through a sampler or a DAW so the ideas are endless. Not to mention you can purchase the full setup direct for $200! The slogan really says it all "The best drums you've never seen."