In this episode, Mark sits down with Lance Cayko for a wide-ranging conversation about what drives ambitious people to keep building, experimenting, and pushing forward. Lance shares his “Renaissance” approach to life and work, blending old and new ideas while staying addicted to the process of creating, even when things don’t go to plan. Together, they explore how curiosity, resilience, and momentum shape careers, businesses, and personal growth over time.

They also dig into the mindset shifts that help people navigate challenge with confidence, including Lance’s belief in polarity, how positive and negative forces can exist side by side and fuel progress. The conversation touches on what it means to lead in a way that people trust, how to create environments where others feel safe to speak up, and why the best leaders aren’t the most intimidating, but the most approachable.