In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright speaks with Marcia Ore, a diversity, equity and inclusion consultant, executive coach, mediator and former police sergeant with more than four decades of leadership experience. Marcia reflects on her 30-year policing career, the importance of planning and adapting throughout your career, and the realities of working in organisations where stated values do not always match lived experience. The conversation explores representation, psychological safety, accessibility, leadership courage, curiosity and the need to embed inclusion across every part of an organisation rather than treat it as a separate initiative.