In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright is joined by Michael Bach, internationally recognised inclusion, diversity, equity and accessibility expert, author and speaker. Michael reflects on his unconventional journey from child actor to global DEIA leader, sharing how his early work in activism, his time at KPMG, and his leadership of the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion shaped his approach to creating meaningful change. Together, Mark and Michael explore what it really takes to move beyond compliance and towards cultures where people feel seen, valued and able to thrive.

The conversation also dives into the growing backlash against DEI, why change often moves more slowly than people hope, and how leaders can avoid performative action in favour of work that genuinely sticks. Michael speaks candidly about visibility, identity, resilience and the importance of making inclusion practical, honest and human.