Sam is just a buddy of mine who I always seem to have amazing chats with. We met at high school, but have only really become friends in the last couple of years. In this chat I just thought we'd have absolutely no plan and just see where it went. And beginning with a simple "how are you?" we went to some pretty amazing places. I was stoked to have an opportunity to share my "relative relativism" idea and to have an opportunity to test it out too!. I hope you like this as much as I loved making it. Sam's off on an adventure for a few months, but I'm sure he'll be back sometime for another podcast one day.