Danny and Derek are joined by Noah Gordon, acting co-director of the Sustainability, Climate, and Geopolitics program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, to talk about how violent nonstate actors (VNSAs) might be empowered by climate change and the responses to it. They get into how climate change will likely affect state capabilities, the strategic implications of increasingly inhospitable areas, how the wealthy might be insulated from VNSAs, resource conflicts, the role of climate migration, and more.

Check out Noah’s piece around which the episode is centered, “How Climate Change Helps Violent Nonstate Actors”.

Noah also recently wrote this piece for The New Republic on water scarcity near the Colorado River as well as this article for the journal Environment on climate finance.

Recorded on April 19, 2023

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