This week Katie talks with her brother Toby about his creative life so far. Toby takes us on his journey through sea kayaking the shipping forecast, using his persuasion skills to go to a seal sanctuary in the dark, climbing trees in Rutland, his professional creative experience in architecture and teaching and more.

We delve into how to live a creative life, what a creative process looks like and how creativity can feed your soul.

You can find more information about Toby’s sea kayaking on his website https://www.m-b-g-l.org and you can follow him on Instagram at @moderatebecominggoodlater

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Original music written and performed by Jonathan D. Mellor licensed to Step Up Create S.L.