Hosts Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters converse with Neil Cole, a seasoned church planter and author, about his book PRIMAL FIRE.  They delve into the fivefold ministry gifts from Ephesians 4—apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds, and teachers. Neal shares his transition from traditional pastoral roles to organic church planting, emphasizing discipleship and leadership development. He discusses the dynamics and tensions between different ministry roles, the importance of recognizing one's spiritual gifts, and the global shift towards a more relational church model. Neil also recounts a miraculous story, underscoring the power of faith and divine purpose.

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https://starlinginitiatives.com/
https://www.facebook.com/neil.cole.92

Timestamps:
The Pastor Factory Concept (00:03:27)
Shift to Organic Church Planting (00:04:42)
Life Transformation Groups (00:05:57)
Motivation Behind Writing (00:06:44)
Overview of the Fivefold Ministry (00:10:29)
Understanding Each Gift (00:12:59)
Conflict Within Gifts (00:17:24)
Synergy of Working Together (00:18:48)
Apostles and Prophets Dynamic (00:19:54)
The Need for Diverse Gifts (00:23:01)
Tension Between Evangelist and Shepherd (00:24:42)
Brandon's Journey and Influences (00:26:00)
New Apostolic Reformation Explained (00:27:04)
Misconceptions of Apostolic Authority (00:28:08)
The Importance of Foundation in Ministry (00:34:01)
Final Push Towards Multiplication (00:35:46)
Global Awakening Among Young People (00:37:33)
Judgment and Exposure in the Church (00:40:02)
Cultural Shifts in Celebrity Conversions (00:42:43)
Differentiating Apostolic Roles (00:43:40)
Identifying Spiritual Gifts (00:46:34)
Listening to God, Church, and Yourself (00:47:40)
The Role of the Enemy (00:50:16)
The Gift of Jesus (00:51:44)
Small Beginnings Lead to Growth (00:53:56)
A Miraculous Story of Healing (00:55:03)
Understanding Our Identity in Christ (00:57:07)