Danny and Derek sit down with journalist Lily Lynch to discuss her article for The New Statesman, “The Realists Were Right”, which assesses the state of the Ukraine War 18 months into the conflict. They discuss the shifting perspectives of the war within Ukraine, what exactly happened with the much-hyped Spring counteroffensive, the future of U.S. support, the response to Lily’s piece, the role of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky on the international stage, what role the war might play in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, and more.

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