The Happiest Lives Podcast

E118: When Thought Work Isn’t Enough: A Real Talk on Mood, Medication & Mental Health


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This is Episode 5 in the series Hormones, Happiness & The Holy Spirit. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the right things—journaling, praying, renewing your mind—and still feel stuck, discouraged, or just plain off, this episode is for you.

Today I’m joined by my favorite guest (and husband), Dr. Richard Lillard—a clinical psychologist with decades of experience in both therapy and integrated health. We talk about what’s actually going on when emotional tools aren’t working, the difference between situational struggles and clinical mood disorders, and how to know when it’s time to consider extra support—whether that’s therapy, medication, or both.

We also unpack the difference between coaching and counseling, how our biology impacts our emotional and spiritual lives, and why you don’t have to figure this out alone.

This episode is full of wisdom, humor, and deep compassion for anyone who’s ever wondered, “Why can’t I just feel better?”

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When you sign up, you’ll get free access to my upcoming live workshop, From Stuck to Surrendered: Recovering the Lost Art of Feeling, plus an exclusive opportunity to receive a deep discount on the Academy when enrollment opens in November.

Discover ways to work with me at www.thehappiestlives.com or www.myhappyvault.com
Questions? Email Jill directly at [email protected]

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