Cris Rogers is a creative, fun, strategic and missional leader. He and his wife Beki lead a church in East London but Cris also helps lead Spring Harvest and has gained insights into the national church through a diagnostic tool that he developed as part of his 'Making Disciples' resource. Listen in on a conversation with Cris and hear about trends in the national church, why digital wasn't his first response when lockdown hit, plus 6 shifts to create a healthy church culture, and much more.