Today on Upstream, Ross Douthat joins Erik Torenberg to discuss his new book 'Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious,' exploring the decline of new atheism, the intellectual defense of institutional religion, and the intersection between traditional Christianity, Silicon Valley, and modern materialism.

This episode originally aired on Moment of Zen (April 12, 2025).

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LINKS:

Ross Douthat: https://www.nytimes.com/column/ross-douthat 

Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious: https://www.zondervan.com/p/believe/

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