By Erik Torenberg
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Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg are joined by Omar Shams, the founder of Mutable AI, for a deep dive into Omar’s great piece, The AI Organization. In this conversation, they explore the potential of AI to transform organizational productivity, the limitations of financial metrics in GDP, and AI's role in political processes and societal structures.
This episode was recorded for Turpentine’s show The Riff. Check it out for more like this: https://open.spotify.com/show/6rANlV54GCARLgMOtpkzKt
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Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
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LINKS:
Byrne Hobart’s writing: https://thediff.co
Omar Sham’s piece: https://blog.mutable.ai/p/the-ai-organization-part-i
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:22) Historical context of technological adoption
(04:47) The Al Organization
(07:15) Economic theories and Al
(13:00) Capitalism vs. Communism
(17:01) Sponsors: Brave | Squad
(19:10) Role of Al in future economies
(20:32) Al's impact on company sizes
(25:50) Al and political influence
(31:27) Effect of Al on legal services
(33:35) Complexity of GDP and human preferences
(43:36) Future of Work and Al Integration
(56:03) Al adoption in various sectors
(01:05:39) Outro
Erik Torenberg and Noah Smith are joined by Dario Amodei, CEO and Co-founder of Anthropic. Dario talks about the economics of AI development, the comparative advantage of AI companies like Anthropic, AI safety, and his stance on California's SB 1047 bill. They also discuss the impacts of AI on global power dynamics, competition between the US and China, and inequality in an AI-powered world.
This episode was recorded this week on Turpentine’s show Econ 102. Check it out for more like this: https://open.spotify.com/show/6q7Gn5lP8TTtBPuV1NJSGs?si=8fab4d65ddf5422a
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LINKS:
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Noahpinion: https://www.noahpinion.blog/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(04:23) Dario's intellectual evolution
(06:37) Is Google the Bell Labs of Al?
(10:07) Economic moats in Al
(12:35) Scaling hypothesis and Al's future
(17:05) National security and Al
(19:04) Leopold Aschenbrenner's essay
(20:33) Al's impact on business models
(26:30) Noah's big thesis
(29:32) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave
(31:58) Al arms races?
(36:17) Al's impact on labor and skill distribution
(40:41) Sponsor: Squad
(44:35) Future of Al and a hyperscaling world
(41:42) A vision of radical abundance
(49:55) Al safety and inequality
(54:06) The SB 1047 debate
(58:56) Rabbit alignment problem
(01:01:25) Wrap
Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase, joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez on Moment of Zen in August 2024 to talk about the company's evolution and the broader crypto landscape. Armstrong discusses Coinbase's focus on product development, their efforts in Washington D.C., why he listens to Balaji Srinivasan, and strategies for increasing global crypto adoption.
Armstrong also touches on his venture into biotech with New Limit, the changing media landscape, and the future of economic freedom through decentralized technologies.
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LINKS:
Base: https://www.base.org/
Coinbase Developer Platform: https://cdp.coinbase.com/
New Limit: https://www.newlimit.com/
Farcaster: https://www.farcaster.xyz/
Stand With Crypto: https://standwithcrypto.org
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:28) Brian's Current Focus Areas at Coinbase
(03:10) Coinbase's Move Towards Decentralization
(05:09) Coinbase's Approach to Innovation
(10:36) Thoughts on Mass Market Crypto Adoption
(15:01) Sponsor: Babbel | Brave
(17:44) Crypto's Implications Beyond Payments
(23:54) Experiences with Crypto Regulation in DC
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(30:42) Coinbase's Marketing Strategy
(34:09) Measuring Economic Freedom and Crypto Adoption
(43:08) Origins of New Limit Biotech Company
(50:12) Challenges of Shifting from Crypto to Biotech
(52:58) Reflections on Dan Romero's Contributions to Coinbase
(55:18) Thoughts on Balaji Srinivasan
(56:34) Balaji's Insights on Media Landscape
(59:24) Wrap
In this episode of Upstream, Erik Torenberg sits down with Eoghan McCabe who opens up about his journey entering Silicon Valley, leading Intercom, shifting company culture, and becoming politically engaged. This episode offers a frank look at the complexities of building and scaling a tech company, coming back from personal and professional defeat, and what it will take — politically — to empower the next generation of techno-optimist builders.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:48) San Francisco's tech scene
(02:11) Moving to San Francisco
(03:32) Challenges and changes in San Francisco
(06:57) Political dynamics and tech's role
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(14:08) Intercom's journey and leadership challenges
(20:02) Reinventing Intercom
(22:10) Resetting company culture and values
(24:49) Implementing performance management systems
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(30:54) Dealing with setbacks and personal growth
(32:49) The importance of therapy and self-care
(35:55) Reflections on failure and growth
(38:58) Eoghan's journey from apolitical to politically engaged
(40:45) Views on capitalism, freedom, and the Western world
(48:11) Navigating political discussions in the tech industry
(50:27) Eoghan’s Vision for more positive tech media
(51:02) Importance of inspiring young builders and innovators
(53:16) Wrap
In this episode of Upstream, we’re releasing an interview from 2021 with Marc Andreessen, Sriram Krishnan, and Aarthi Ramamurthy. They discuss the higher education system's inefficiencies, high costs and lack of competition, and explore innovative education models including cohort-based learning and unbundling education components. Marc shares personal anecdotes about his college experience and emphasizes the need for tech and internet-based educational models to educational models to evolve and meet global demand.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:37) Erik on lifelong learning
(04:48) Challenges facing traditional higher education
(08:34) Marc Andreessen’s college experience
(12:31) Sponsors: Squad | Babbel | Brave
(16:20) Alternative education models
(18:57) MOOCs, Lambda and lifelong education
(25:52) Indian education system vs. US education system
(31:15) Wrap
In this episode of Upstream, we revisit a 2020 conversation with Erik Torenberg and Katherine Boyle exploring the intersection of religion and media in this tech-driven world. Katherine discusses her Washington Post article on how San Francisco's tech advancements have largely bypassed religious institutions. They explore the factors behind this gap, the emergence of digital faith, and the decline of traditional religious affiliations. Katherine also shares her insights on the media landscape discussing the challenges and opportunities in subscription-based journalism and the potential for startups in both media and religion.
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LINKS:
Silicon Valley has digitized everything but religion. Will that change? - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/21/silicon-valley-has-digitized-everything-religion-will-that-change/
Pew Research Forum : https://www.pewresearch.org/
In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:26) Katherine’s Article on the Washington Post About Religion and Technology
(02:47) The Decline of Religious Affiliation in the US and Europe
(04:27) Polarization and Secularization
(07:55) Media's Role in Polarization
(11:26) SPONSORS: Squad | Babbel
(14:12) The New York Times Controversy
(21:56) The Role of Independent Journalists
(23:41) The Fairness Doctrine and Media Fragmentation
(27:25) Subscription Models in Journalism
(32:11) The Evolution of Media
(35:10) SPONSOR: Brave
(45:59) Corporations and Political Stances
(49:32) Billionaires and Media Ownership
(51:34) Investing in Media and Religion Startups
(55:19) Wrap
Last week, Erik Torenberg sat down with Balaji Srinivasan to discuss the vibe shift to the right in Silicon Valley, particularly after the attempted assassination of President Trump. This episode originally aired in Moment of Zen. They discuss the rising tensions between tech counter-elites and political incumbents, and why tech is at odds with "America First". They explore tech's influence on politics, ideological shifts, and international dynamics affecting global economics and policies. Balaji also provides a critical analysis of movements like the January 6th riots and contemplates the future of democracy.
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:29) The Rise of the Tech Counter Elite
(06:15) Global Influence and the Tech Center
(12:49) The Tech Counter Elite vs. Traditional Elites
(19:10) Democratic Party's Internal Struggles
(27:13) SPONSORS: Squad | beehiiv
(37:31) Conspiracy Theories and Political Divides
(39:19) SPONSORS: Babbel | Brave
(41:51) Meta Organisms and Human Coordination
(51:26) Media Manipulation and Political Narratives
(01:10:56) Economic and Political Shifts
(01:37:04) Economic Collapse and Future Predictions
(01:40:05) Conclusion and Final Thoughts
This week on Upstream, we’re releasing a fascinating discussion with economist, professor, and bestselling author Tyler Cowen about how to find talented people. This was recorded in 2022 around the launch of his book 'Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World' co-authored with Daniel Gross. Tyler and Erik discuss strategies for assessing raw talent, recognizing late bloomers, and fostering an environment conducive to high achievers. They also cover the importance of understanding founder compatibility, building strong peer groups, and the role of mentorship in talent development.
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🎙️ History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
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LINKS:
Talent: How to Identify Energizers, Creatives, and Winners Around the World - https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Identify-Energizers-Creatives-Winners/dp/1250275814
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:07) The Genesis of Tyler Cowen's Book 'Talent'
(06:33) The Role of Peer Endorsement
(11:01) Super Fans and High Achievers
(13:19) Impact of Public Fame and Risk Aversion Among Young People
(15:12) SPONSORS: Squad | beehiiv
(17:40) Choosing the Right Hierarchies
(20:12) Scaling Apprenticeships
(29:33) Commercial Break: Babbel Language Learning
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(31:57) Wishlist Topics for Future Research
(40:42) Organizing the World's Ambition
(47:56) The Future of Emergent Ventures
(51:14) Closing Thoughts and Future Projects
This week on Upstream, we're releasing a 2019 interview with David Gornoski and Erik Torenberg on the Village Global podcast, offering a deep dive into René Girard's Mimetic Theory, exploring its far-reaching societal impacts and surprising connections to ancient rituals and myths. They unpack the concept of mimetic desire and the profound influence of Christianity on society, exploring how the anthropological impact of Jesus could transform personal and socio-political conflicts. David also provides a unique perspective on the evolution of ancient sacrifices and mythologies, juxtaposing them with modern societal issues.
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🎙️ History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:51) René Girard and His Impact
(03:44) The Political Implications of Girard's Ideas
(06:39) Understanding Mimetic Desire
(13:54) SPONSORS: Babbel | Beehiiv
(16:32) Scapegoating in Society
(25:43) SPONSOR: Squad
(27:06) Modern Examples of Scapegoating
(43:01) The Inhumane System and Hidden Scapegoats
(44:26) The Power of Mercy-Driven Solutions
(45:57) Mimetic Rivalry and Political Power
(49:29) Challenging Groupthink in Science and Healthcare
(53:08) The Role of Jesus in Social Justice and Politics
(56:04) The Consequences of Sacrificial Politics
(01:08:39) Anthropology, Religion, and Future Technologies
(01:13:12) Wrap
In this week’s episode of Upstream, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg discuss America's future. They cover the 2024 presidential race, the Chevron ruling from the Supreme Court, and the polarization of the education system. Noah and Erik also discuss where wokeness goes from here, and the potential outcomes of integrating more conservatives into the civil service through initiatives like Project 2025. Noah also debunks the deep state myth and discusses the real issues surrounding Biden's age, questioning the influence of "political handlers" and the reality of a "deep state." 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.
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🎙️ History 102 with WhatifAltHist
Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | BABBEL | SQUAD
🐝 Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. A special offer is at https://beehiiv.com: use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months
🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg
💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview
(01:09) 4th of July Celebrations and Mailbag Questions
(01:51) Debate Reflections: Trump vs. Biden
(02:35) Biden's Age and Democratic Dilemma
(03:09) Kamala Harris: The Successor Debate
(04:12) Michelle Obama: A Potential Candidate?
(07:06) The Deep State: Myth or Reality?
(11:30) Bernie Sanders and the DNC
(13:58) Chevron Ruling and Its Implications
(19:10) Sponsor: beehiiv | Babbel
(22:44) Project 2025 and Civil Service Polarization
(30:34) Reflecting on the Floyd Protests
(31:57) The Impact of Trump's Presidency
(35:05) Sponsors: Squad
(36:29) Debating the Administrative State
(38:31) Challenges in the Education System
(46:56) Redistribution and Class in America
(53:37) The Future of UBI and Cash Benefits
(57:51) Wrap
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