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Timestamps:

0:00 Will Ternus take "massively big swings"?

3:43 Round 1: ElevenLabs

4:46 Round 1: Disney

6:18 Round 2: Sony

8:22 Round 2: Boston Dynamics

9:23 Round 3: Perplexity

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11:52 Round 3: DigitalOcean

13:02 More picks: Etched

14:30 More picks: Lucid

15:58 More picks: Superhuman

16:48 More picks: Higgsfield and more

18:09 Fans make their selections

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34:38 How the app calculates your Sunscore

42:12 Building a UV research dataset

45:09 Should The90 make a version for men?

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Description

Wall Street suspects new Apple CEO John Ternus may do something predecessor Tim Cook almost never did: writing a huge check.

So Jason and Lon are playing “fantasy draft” with Apple’s balance sheet, choosing five real companies to acquire over five “rounds.” Disney buys them a ton of IP and unlocks theme park synergies. Sony gets them a gaming console and massive anime distribution. Boston Dynamics buys them lots of robots, while Etched nets them cheaper inference. So many options!

Then, we chat with Stacy Salvi of The90. Her wearable pendant tells you exactly how much sun damage you’re accumulating, long before you start to burn.

Guest

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Stacy Salvi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacysalvi/

Relevant Links

John Ternus becomes Apple CEO: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/04/tim-cook-to-become-apple-executive-chairman-john-ternus-to-become-apple-ceo/

Analyst: Ternus could bring bigger acquisitions: https://9to5mac.com/?p=1065466

“Grok Has Money” meme origin: https://x.com/gmfarcaster/status/2026318035103965414

Sunlight linked with lower COVID-19 deaths: https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2021/sunlight-linked-with-lower-covid-19-deaths

Reid Hoffman: “If there aren’t any typos in this essay, we launched too late”: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/arent-any-typos-essay-we-launched-too-late-reid-hoffman/

Draft Picks

ElevenLabs: https://elevenlabs.io/

Disney: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/

Sony Group: https://www.sony.com/en/

Crunchyroll: https://www.crunchyroll.com/

Boston Dynamics: https://bostondynamics.com/

Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/

DigitalOcean: https://www.digitalocean.com/

Etched: https://www.etched.com/

Rivian: https://rivian.com/

Lucid Motors: https://lucidmotors.com/

Superhuman: https://superhuman.com/

World Labs: https://www.worldlabs.ai/

PrismML: https://prismml.com/

Liquid AI: https://www.liquid.ai/

Kagi: https://kagi.com/

Sonos: https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop

Whoop: https://www.whoop.com/

Oura: https://ouraring.com/

Peloton: https://www.onepeloton.com/

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Today’s show:

An OpenAI agent breached Australia's Medicare statistics portal in June, and it took 84 days for the Frontier Lab to publicly acknowledge it. Jason and Lon dig into whether this is an important cautionary tale about alignment, or if PM Anthony Albanese looking to join the AI conversation.

Then Bryant Chou of Ploy joins to explain skipping pre-seed and seed entirely to raise $27M, and why he’s taking his time to build his all-in-one agentic solution for running businesses.

Learn why Google is launching four TPUs into orbit for Project Suncatcher. PLUS, how many robots a week is Tesla now shipping with Optimus, and Jensen Huang told Ezra Klein basic math no longer matters. Is he right? Can we forget long division, at last?

Guests:

Bryant Chou on X: https://x.com/bryantchou PloyAI: https://ploy.ai/

Relevant Links:

Ploy raises $27M seed led by First Round Capital and Y Combinator (Founderland) → https://www.founderland.ai/articles/webflow-co-founder-launches-ai-marketing-platform-with-27m-s-mqj8o952

OpenAI's $2M-in-tokens offer to every YC startup(TechCrunch via Yahoo) → https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/sam-altman-makes-mic-drop-212302858.html

Original Bloomberg report on the a16z probe → https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-17/andreessen-horowitz-focus-of-doj-probe-over-board-directors

Google: Project Suncatcher's first test launch on SpaceX's Transporter-18 → https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-research/google-project-suncatcher-facts/

ABC News (Australia): full timeline, from the June 18 breach to OpenAI's Sept. 10 email → https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078

Ando emerges from stealth with $20M to take on Slack (TechCrunch) → https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/24/ando-eyes-slack-as-it-builds-team-messaging-platform-for-humans-and-agents-to-work-together/

Google's $900M investment in SpaceX's $1B round, January 2015 (VentureBeat) → https://venturebeat.com/technology/google-confirms-it-put-900m-into-spacexs-1b-round

Tesla ramps Optimus to several hundred robots a week; hands are the bottleneck (Electrek, summarizing The Information) → https://electrek.co/2026/09/25/tesla-optimus-production-ramp-hands-ai-generalization-problems/

Jensen Huang tells Ezra Klein forgetting basic math may not matter, and that he doesn't know his own address (Kotaku) → https://kotaku.com/nvidia-ceo-doesnt-care-that-kids-are-forgetting-basic-math-because-of-ai-i-actually-dont-know-my-address-2000737092

Sydney Sweeney's Novig "Just Sports" ad and the athlete backlash, including Amy Hunt's comment (Yahoo) → https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/sydney-sweeney-novig-ad-controversy-172900515.html

Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years (Fortune) → https://fortune.com/2026/09/08/nike-stock-plummets-sp500-market-cap-index/

The Further Mis-Adventures of Cliff Booth trailer: David Fincher directs Tarantino's script; IMAX Nov. 25, Netflix Dec. 23 (Variety) → https://variety.com/2026/film/news/the-further-mis-adventures-cliff-booth-trailer-brad-pitt-1236701901/

Timestamps:

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4:45 News: an OpenAI agent breached Australia's Medicare statistics portal

12:48 Scraper or hack? Australia's PM jumps into the AI safety debate

13:31 News: Google launches four TPUs into orbit for Project Suncatcher

18:27 Guest: Bryant Chou of PloyAI

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21:11 Ploy's thesis: your website as your hardest working employee

27:05 Why a repeat unicorn founder went back to Y Combinator

38:55 The DOJ probe into a16z's Databricks and Fivetran board seats

44:57 "Nobody's thinking about you": Jason's stair story

45:17 Frontier models vs. your own model, and OpenAI's $2M YC token deal

54:04 News: Ando wants to replace Slack with agent-native chat

1:01:08 News: Tesla ramps Optimus to several hundred robots a week

1:04:48 Off-Duty: Jensen Huang tells Ezra Klein basic math may not matter

1:08:31 The MIT "Your Brain on ChatGPT" EEG study

1:09:57 Jason's five-part reset: sleep, diet, exercise, socializing, meditation

1:11:45 Off-Duty: Sydney Sweeney's Novig ad backlash

1:21:07 The Further Mis-Adventures of Cliff Booth trailer

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Today’s show:

Anthropic and OpenAI released cheaper models on the same day with Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT-6, and these VCs would still bet on open source. Jason brings on Dave McClure of Practical Venture Capital, Jeff Clavier of Uncork Capital, and Jenny Fielding of Everywhere Ventures to discuss the argument for open-weight models over the frontier labs.

Learn why median seed valuations have more than tripled since 2017. Why does Dave say it's a buyer's market for secondaries right now? PLUS, does Meta's Muse leave any room for Instinct, and why are fintech and healthcare suddenly out of favor?

Guests:

Dave McClure on X: https://x.com/davemcclure?lang=en Practical Venture Capital: https://practicalvc.com/

Jeff Clavier on X: https://x.com/jeff Uncorked Capital: https://uncorkcapital.com/

Jenny Fiedling on X: https://x.com/jefielding Everywhere Ventures: https://www.everywhere.vc/

Relevant Links:

Instinct reportedly seeking $1B at a $10B valuation (report via The Information) → https://cryptobriefing.com/ai-assistant-startup-instinct-targets-10b-valuation-in-new-funding-talks-report/

Meta's Muse, the agent the panel sees as Instinct's biggest threat, now on Mac → https://aiweekly.co/alerts/meta-ships-muse-for-mac-agent-now-acts-in-native-macos-apps

Trump calls Jensen Huang onstage at the All-In Summit → https://thenextweb.com/news/trump-phoned-jensen-huang-onstage-at-the-all-in-summit-to-call-ai-fear-a-hoax

AI-assisted intel error nearly triggered a US intercept of a Chinese ship (CNN via gCaptain) → https://gcaptain.com/ai-error-nearly-triggered-u-s-intercept-of-chinese-ship-cnn-reports/

Bernie Sanders' 50% AI sovereign wealth fund bill + Altman meeting (Fortune) → https://fortune.com/2026/06/18/bernie-sanders-ai-fund-bill-sam-altman-1000-payments/

Stanley Druckenmiller's AI-written WSJ op-ed (Axios) → https://axios.com/2026/08/26/stanley-druckenmiller-ai-writing-wsj-op-ed

Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Sol/Luna launch the same day with price cuts (SiliconANGLE) → https://siliconangle.com/2026/09/22/anthropic-releases-claude-opus-5-5-and-openai-counters-with-two-cheaper-gpt-6-models/

Zipline: LAUNCH's "miss," later backed through the syndicate → https://www.flyzipline.com/

Micro1 → https://www.micro1.ai/

Founder University → **https://www.founder.university/** [VERIFY]

The Syndicate: angel invest alongside LAUNCH (apply, waitlist) → **https://thesyndicate.com/**

Timestamps:

0:00 What seed rounds looked like then: Fitbit's $2M seed

2:38 Jenny's Techstars NYC years and the two-unicorn mug

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7:51 All-In Summit: Trump calls Jensen Huang onstage. Staged or not?

8:56 P(doom) roundtable + Dave's AI sovereign wealth fund prediction

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13:35 The AI intel error that nearly triggered a US-China incident

17:44 "McClure's Law": a human with AI is the real risk

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21:37 Stripe + OpenRouter: an anti-fraud play, not a routing play?

23:07 Seed valuations: median $8M (2017) to $28M today

23:58 Instinct: $2.5B to a reported $10B in weeks

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44:01 Opus 5.5 vs. GPT-6 Sol: the same-day price war

46:51 Gun to your head: open-weight models or frontier labs?

51:00 Secondaries: the top 30 names vs. everyone else

52:30 Why fintech and healthcare are unloved (and Jason's Robinhood bet)

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Today’s show:

Elon revives the Hyperloop, promising a 30-minute commute between Austin and San Antonio. It's the kind of project that could reshape how Texans think about getting between two major cities entirely. Then, Jason and Lon explain why this pitch is different from the other Boring Company tunnels.

Learn why President Trump wants to rename artificial intelligence itself and launch an "AI Force." It's a move that could reshape how the government talks about AI policy going forward. PLUS, a new startup's model refuses to write a single word of text, and it is 5 to 18 times faster with better accuracy. It's a completely different approach to how AI agents make decisions, and it might be a preview of where the industry heads next.

Relevant Links:

"Elon Musk's latest Boring Company pitch involves a Hyperloop between Austin and San Antonio" → https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/20/elon-musks-latest-boring-company-pitch-involves-a-hyperloop-between-austin-and-san-antonio/

The Boring Company → https://www.boringcompany.com/

Elon Musk's original 2013 Hyperloop white paper → https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/blog_images/hyperloop-alpha.pdf

Trump's Truth Social post proposing "Superior/Extreme/Supreme Intelligence" and announcing an AI Force and AI czar → https://www.unite.ai/trump-proposes-renaming-artificial-intelligence-announces-ai-force/

TechCrunch: "Trump says it's time to rebrand AI with a new name — and he's also creating an AI Force" → https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/19/trump-suggests-rebranding-ai-with-a-new-name-says-hes-also-creating-an-ai-force/

Vercel AI Open vs Closed Source Volume Chart → https://vercel.com/ai-gateway/leaderboards/models

TypeSafe AI — makers of Jev, the "System One Model" → https://typesafe.ai/

TypeSafe AI blog: "Introducing System One Models & Jev" → https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev

GeekWire: "Amazon blocks Meta's Muse AI assistant in new standoff over agentic shopping" → https://www.geekwire.com/2026/amazon-blocks-metas-muse-ai-assistant-in-new-standoff-over-agentic-shopping/

Meta's Muse — the AI agent Amazon blocked from shopping on its site → https://www.meta.ai/

"Meta's Dina Powell McCormick: The Case for Data Centers, Backlash, AI Job Boom & Meta's Future" (All-In Podcast, YouTube) — the clip discussed on the show → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp2IbgJ5Z-8

Robocurve's RoboHarm report — the robot-safety benchmark discussed on air → https://robocurve.org/roboharm/

RoboHarm on GitHub (tasks, protocol, and tooling) → https://github.com/robocurve/roboharm

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0:00 Elon Musk revives the Hyperloop: a 30-minute Austin–San Antonio tunnel

1:03 A brief history of Hyperloop and the white paper

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21:40 News: Trump proposes an "AI Force," an AI czar, and renaming AI itself

22:49 "Get back to work, nerds"

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31:56 TypeSafe's Jev, a "System One" model built to decide, not chat

39:49 Amazon blocks Meta's Muse AI agent

49:57 Dina Powell McCormick's tense All-In Summit exchange with Jason

1:02:38 Off-Duty: Robocurve's RoboHarm benchmark

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Hugging Face built a $399 open-source robot duck as a side quest, and sold 16,000 units off a single tweet. Co-founder Thomas Wolf joins Jason and Lon to explain Microduck happened, why storage is the company's real business, and what it felt like to get hacked by OpenAI's agents.

Jason takes apart Gavin Newsom's new AI "kill switch" executive order: if these models are so dangerous, why not start with the same KYC every bank already requires? PLUS, Snap’s new AI-integrated glasses could be a game-changer.

Guests:

Thomas Wolf on X:⁠ https://x.com/Thom_Wolf⁠ Hugging Face:⁠ https://huggingface.co/⁠

Relevant Links:

Hugging Face —⁠ https://huggingface.co/⁠

Microduck —⁠ https://pollen-robotics.com/microduck/⁠

Pollen Robotics —⁠ https://pollen-robotics.com/⁠

OpenAI: the Hugging Face incident and the road ahead —⁠ https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-incident-and-the-road-ahead/⁠

Governor Newsom's executive order —⁠ https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/californias-newsom-issues-executive-order-to-weigh-ai-oversight-including-kill-switch-3a98040f⁠

Anthropic Wet Lab —⁠ https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/18/anthropic-quietly-sets-up-biology-lab-as-it-ramps-ai-drug-program-report.html⁠

Lucid and Bolt to deploy 25,000 autonomous EVs across Europe —⁠ https://electrek.co/2026/09/17/lucid-bolt-25000-autonomous-evs-europe/⁠

Snap opens pre-orders for Specs at $2,195 —⁠ https://www.specs.com/⁠

Ray-Ban Meta Display — the $799 comparison⁠ https://www.meta.com/ai-glasses/⁠

Clavicular at All-In Summit —⁠ https://x.com/clavicular/status/2099994778616348811?s=20⁠

Physical: 100 (the Korean original) →⁠ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical:_100⁠

Bad Therapy —⁠ https://www.abigailshrier.com/⁠

Full Show Notes and Transcript from Pluad:⁠ https://web.plaud.ai/s/pub_194de893-8c55-4d77-81db-a6b278159a44::o9QfImqCq5VS0F_dqm4J93eTeyb-GsIeXCLwqASnvYAmt5f59OLQz5-VN1epnq6DBLoZWFales_7IbgC⁠

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0:00 Guest: Thomas Wolf, co-founder & chief science officer, Hugging Face

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4:17 Two years to build Microduck

8:43 How Hugging Face actually makes money: storage, not tokens

10:16 Superhuman - Superhuman Go is an AI chat that's always there when you need it, already aware of what you're doing, and doesn't ask you to start from zero. Sign up to get the best in AI at https://superhuman.com

17:18 Vibe-coding robotics: "train this new behavior for me"

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23:20 Thomas Wolf's P-doom and the airplane-safety analogy

25:18 The Nvidia acquisition and what changes for open models

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38:39 Inside the Hugging Face breach: stolen credentials and basic mistakes

43:33 News: Newsom's executive order and the frontier-model "kill switch"

45:04 Jason's counter-proposal: liability, insurance, and KYC for AI

1:00:08 News: Lucid and Bolt to put 25,000 robotaxis on European roads

1:10:01 News: Snap opens pre-orders for $2,195 Specs AR glasses

1:21:43 Off-Duty: Clavicular, the All-In Summit

1:31:01 Off-Duty: Physical 100 goes to Italy and Mexico

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The demo works, the vibes are immaculate, but then the app falls apart the second real users touch it. On today's AI Basics, Temporal co-founder and CEO Samar Abbas says the problem isn't with the model at all. You're missing a harness, the layer that keeps an AI agent's work durable, secure, and recoverable if/when something breaks.

Temporal's durable execution platform is used by major companies from OpenAI to Stripe to Netflix, and helps to make their long-running software reliable and interruption-free.

On AI Basics, he explains why so many AI-coded prototypes die in the imagineering stage, before ever hitting production. Plus he walks Jason through Temporal's live dashboard, to show how it gives developers full visibility into what their agents are doing at every step.

Guest and Relevant Links:

Samar Abbas on X: https://x.com/SamarAtTemporal

Temporal: https://temporal.io/

Temporal raises $550M at a $12.55B valuation: https://temporal.io/blog/temporal-raises-usd550m-series-e-at-usd12-55b-valuation-ai

GeekWire: Samar Abbas on the "massive platform shift" in AI: https://www.geekwire.com/2026/temporal-ceo-samar-abbas-on-the-massive-platform-shift-in-ai-fueling-the-startups-5b-valuation/

Temporal expands Google Cloud partnership: https://temporal.io/blog/temporal-expands-google-cloud-partnership-with-pay-as-you-go-pricing

Timestamps:

0:00 Why every startup needs an AI harness

2:12 Why 90% of AI prototypes never reach production

4:16 What happens when an agent crashes mid-task

7:00 A look at Temporal's dashboard

13:02 OK but what is a "harness" exactly?

15:30 When to graduate an agent from laptop to production

17:44 Organizing agents into teams

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Today's show:

A 27-year-old Anthropic researcher quit last week warning that AI could cause human extinction, and by Friday, a caller's 76-year-old mother was texting her in a panic. Jason's answer: the labs are already shipping the safeguards Doomers say don't exist.

On an all live calls episode of TWiST, learn about the AI implications Jason is actually scared of, and why it involves a terrorist cell and a thousand cheap drones. PLUS, who is liable when one AI prompts another AI into launching a meme coin, and can a 1.5-3 megawatt cannabis facility be converted into a data center?

Relevant Links:

Anthropic Resignee — https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/anthropic-safety-researcher-resigned-warning-rapid-ai-development-gamb-rcna596767

OpenAI's Navier-Stokes claim— https://www.science.org/content/article/how-ai-math-breakthrough-ignited-controversy

CNBC: Tristan Buckmaster's challenge to the claim — https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/09/openai-navier-stokes-math-problem-solved.html

NVIDIA GB200 Grace Blackwell —https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/gb200-nvl72/

Composio's walkthrough of how Grok Bot actually works — https://composio.dev/content/guide-to-frok-bot

Timestamps:

0:00 (Question) Jim, from the midterm Republican convention floor: is AI really going to kill us all — and is local AI the mitigation?

5:31 Where Terminator 2's logic breaks down

9:42 The threat Jason is actually scared of: slaughter drones and murder bots

9:54 Quo (formerly OpenPhone) - Quo gives you a clean, modern way to handle every customer call, text, and thread all in one place. Try it free at https://quo.com/TWiST

10:05 (Question) Michael Lee, who's responsible when one AI prompts another into launching a meme coin?

17:32 (Question) Lyda, calling from Greece: can an independent AI ecosystem still exist

19:03 The Conservation Fund - Find out more about how The Conservation Fund is protecting land, wildlife, and our shared access to the great outdoors while also providing economic opportunities. Visit https://conservationfund.org

21:08 (Question) John Wright: do you have to carve out more time now just to keep up with the tools?

25:42 Claude's caution vs. Grok's "hold my beer"

26:33 (Question) John Wright, part two: do you expect founders to get more done now

26:55 The three buckets: 10x, 5x, and the 20% crowd

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30:01 (Question) Ray, Vortex Console: can human-in-the-loop actually work at enterprise scale?

33:25 (Question) Kristen Dahl: how do you explain AI risk to your 76-year-old mom?

35:13 Why the chaos only happens at OpenAI and Anthropic

43:36 (Question) David Rosenberg, NYU physics: what's behind the academic backlash to AI solving Navier-Stokes?

53:35 Advice for a 20-year-old: find two smart people, build weird things

54:29 (Question) David's follow-up: any chance of an All-In Summit scholarship

56:21 (Question) Mo: can a cannabis cultivation facility be converted into a data center

1:02:30 (Question) Mo's follow-up: Mark Cuban's pickleball courts and the efficiency curve

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Today's show:

The Pentagon is reportedly in talks to lend AI cloud startup Fluidstack $5. billion, and Jason thinks the real story isn't the loan itself. It's the US government owning equity in private AI companies, and competing directly with venture capital.

Plus returning friend of the pod Tibo Louis-Lucas shows us how he runs seven companies with fewer than 10 people by stacking AI agents. Can a few $200/month AI subscriptions really do the work of an entire marketing team? Tibo seems to think so.

Plus it's Off-Duty Friday, so Jason and Lon are reviewing some current streaming favorites, and commemorating the 25th anniversary of 9/11 with some personal stories.

Check out the full summary and transcript of today's episode from Plaud: https://web.plaud.ai/s/pub_213fdb2e-a65e-4901-b5fc-57a4f1e357a1::ZvclWNOK-PPr-9atxIDVG2tpGYUJxiklGAzVbHd9aJRBMSd6ef8l4hG7j_mUAyNTYTXS_Ha1XlEm8fYC

Guests:

Tibo Louis-Lucas on X: https://x.com/tibo_maker

Squad: https://squad.so/

Relevant Links:

Fluidstack: https://www.fluidstack.io

Google-Fluidstack warrants deal details: https://cointelegraph.com/news/google-acquires-5-4-stake-in-bitcoin-mining-company-cipher-mining-in-ai-deal

Center for Public Integrity: Solyndra timeline: https://publicintegrity.org/politics/missed-warning-signs-a-solyndra-timeline/

The Hill: Energy Dept. loses $139M in Fisker auto loan default: https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/191258-energy-dept-loses-139-million-in-auto-loan-gone-bad/

Apple iPhone Duo: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/09/apple-unveils-iphone-duo/

Apple Mac Studio: https://www.apple.com/mac-studio/

Sonos: https://www.sonos.com/

Amazon Fire TV: https://www.amazon.com/b?node=8521791011

UniFi: https://www.ui.com/

Lanterns trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIBOsuUwc4

Dark Matter Season 2 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhB6_1UbR7s

"Robin" biography by Dave Itzkoff: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1627794247

What Dreams May Come trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmZ-FuBThuQ

Huffington Post on the Robin Williams-Disney feud: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/robin-williams-disney-feud-aladdin-picasso_uk_6a7cc304e4b079a0b2ec2233

Keith Roma: the 344th firefighter lost, remembered: https://www.firerescue1.com/9-11/articles/the-firefighter-everyone-forgot-about-on-911-142cs6WyLmn2FDib/

Timestamps:

0:00 Remembering 9/11, 25 Years Later

6:41 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin S. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!

9:10 Are we about to nationalize the AI industry?

9:53 DigitalOcean - Want to see what building on a true AI-native platform looks like? Head to https://do.co/twist to start building on DigitalOcean's AI-Native Cloud today — and cut your AI workload costs by up to 50%.

20:30 Odoo - The all-in-one business platform. Your first app is free! Get started today at https://Odoo.com/twist

21:45 Apple's foldable iPhone Duo

29:43 Upwork - Upwork helps businesses find highly skilled freelance professionals for specialized work. Post your job for free at https://upwork.com

38:04 Tibo Louis-Lucas returns to TWiST

41:47 The affiliate update email that runs on autopilot

46:40 Why you should "stack" multiple AI subscriptions

52:57 Squad's ideal customer is a solo founder

54:11 Jason digs Hal Jordan on "Lanterns"

1:00:19 Lon reviews Apple's "Dark Matter"

1:03:39 Remembering Robin Williams

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Today's show:

One of YouTube's three co-founders left for grad school and walked away with a fraction of what his partners made on the Google sale. Becki DeGraw of Wilson Sonsini joins Jason for Startup Legal Basics to explain the vesting schedule behind that gap, and why you want one even if you never take a dollar of venture money.

Learn how VCs actually respond when a founder says "I've already put in four years," and the exact language Jason gives founders to turn one term sheet into three. PLUS, why is an inactive advisor still vesting your equity, and who wrote those performance milestones?

Guests:

Becki DeGraw on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-degraw-639bbb62/

Wilson Sonsini: https://www.wsgr.com/en/

Relevant Links:

Becki DeGraw — partner in WSGR's San Francisco office — https://www.wsgr.com/en/people/becki-degraw.html

TechCrunch broke the YouTube story— https://techcrunch.com/2006/10/09/google-has-acquired-youtube/

Sequoia Capital — https://www.sequoiacap.com/

Roelof Botha — led Sequoia's YouTube investment and later ran the firm globally → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roelof_Botha

ESOP / employee stock option pool — https://thisweekinstartups.com/basics

Founder & advisor equity documents — https://www.wsgr.com/en/services/practice-areas/corporate/emerging-companies.html

Timestamps: 0:06 Becki DeGraw on why founder equity is "near and dear" to every founder

1:53 Founder vesting explained

3:49 Why you want vesting even if you never take VC money

6:05 "Why do I have to vest again?"

7:32 Leverage is a function of how many offers you have

10:36 The exact script for landing a second term sheet

14:37 Don't let an AI write your three-page vesting schedule

18:19 Character in Silicon Valley: it's a small world after all

19:49 Take the emotion out of it

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