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This episode peers into a relic shrouded in both legend and light—the mysterious cloth known as the Shroud of Turin. Brandon, Lindsy, and guest cohost Jen Parks trace its strange trail through history, where carbon dating collides with forensic detail, plasma bursts hint at hidden forces, and ancient lenses raise unsettling questions. Is it art, accident, or a fragment of resurrection itself? In this journey through science, faith, and the unexplained, we welcome back Dr. Trevor Lohman.

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Timestamps

 00:51 Welcome Back Dr. Trevor Lohman
 03:18 Initial thoughts on the Shroud
 05:39 First photograph and negative image
 08:06 Depth data and 3D qualities
 10:31 Skeptics vs believers
 12:50 Gospel accounts and contradictions
 15:12 Faith vs relic debates
 17:30 Forensic blood evidence
 19:53 Camera obscura theory
 22:16 Carbon dating controversy
 24:31 Tracing historical custody
 26:55 1988 carbon dating scandal
 29:18 Problems with raw data
 31:38 Explaining carbon dating
 34:00 Non-invasive dating evidence
 36:26 Historical chain back to Edessa
 38:42 Motives and skepticism
 41:05 Plasma discharge theory
 43:29 Double superficiality discovery
 45:53 Shroud uniqueness
 48:16 Free will and faith tension
 50:42 Protestant skepticism
 53:06 Trevor’s personal transformation
 55:18 Skeptical vs believer arguments
 57:39 AB blood and relic debates
 01:00:02 Resurrection significance
 01:02:26 Trevor’s podcast and other books